Trump says no legislation if investigation continues

[_ajax18]

You have to be willing to make sacrifices if you want a fair deal. Freedom was never free. Most of Trump's supporters understand he's doing what is in our long term best interest. The Democrats are pretty openly hostile to our interests in enforcing the border, the welfare state, and other policies that takes money from working American people. We're considered "deplorable" and selfish for this. Don't be surprised that you're not winning votes from working people with this kind of a platform.

[_canpakes]

You have to be willing to make sacrifices if you want a fair deal. Freedom was never free. Most of Trump's supporters understand he's doing what is in our long term best interest. The Democrats are pretty openly hostile to our interests in enforcing the border, the welfare state, and other policies that takes money from working American people. We're considered "deplorable" and selfish for this. Don't be surprised that you're not winning votes from working people with this kind of a platform.

Trump has taken the least efficient and most expensive approach to ‘border security’ because he knows that he can count on many folks in his Base to be wowed by the sizzle while ignoring that there’s really no steak. And he laughs in the face of his supporters as he simultaneously hands employment positions over to non-citizens vs actual citizens at a ratio of 145 to 1.

Trump has done virtually nothing to the situation of “the welfare state”, however you define that.

His other policies have thus far made you either no better off, or poorer, with greater cost of living and healthcare expenditures.

What you say sounds great, in the same way that some crazy North Korean lady shouts propaganda on the TV to make her nation sound like it’s making all the right moves in the midst of its descent to the bottom of the third-world country pile. But I don’t see anything backing up your rhetoric, and I don’t think that you can give me too many, if any, examples. I only see you trapped in a cycle of manipulation from an East Coast elite that twists your psyche and forces your pride, aided by your weird infatuation with phrases from past Presidential candidates, like “deplorable”.

Trump knows how to put your sense of injured self esteem and ego against the best interests of your daughter and her future - and everyone else’s. He knows what really moves his Base, and it isn’t a sense of self-sacrifice.

[_ajax18]

against the best interests of your daughter and her future - and everyone else’s.

Do you really think the federal government has any interest in paying off the national debt?


My daughter's present and future has been great under Trump. My S Corp has allowed me to put money away in trusts that will be hers once I pass on. My goal is to work right up until that moment because I don't believe in retirement. The concept is a flaw in our culture, a culture of lazy entitled people who think the community owes them a 30 year long free retirement. It gives me comfort knowing she and her little brother will get that money rather than it being forfeited to the state as the left would have. It's true that I put my own children first. If people want to judge that as part of my racism, let them say what they want, she will still get everything I can save from my earnings because my goal is to make her life better than mine was and I've always believed that wealth and standard of living are built through generations of family work and sacrifice, not illegally immigrating to mooch off what has already been built in another country.

This reminds me of how grateful I am God gave me experience of having such an amazing loving daughter. She ended up being the smartest and prettiest girl i ever met. I didn't know women were capable of this kind of love until she came into my life.

[_Kevin Graham]

against the best interests of your daughter and her future - and everyone else’s.

Do you really think the federal government has any interest in paying off the national debt?


My daughter's present and future has been great under Trump. My S Corp has allowed me to put money away in trusts that will be hers once I pass on. My goal is to work right up until that moment because I don't believe in retirement. The concept is a flaw in our culture, a culture of lazy entitled people who think the community owes them a 30 year long free retirement. It gives me comfort knowing she and her little brother will get that money rather than it being forfeited to the state as the left would have. It's true that I put my own children first. If people want to judge that as part of my racism, let them say what they want, she will still get everything I can save from my earnings because my goal is to make her life better than mine was and I've always believed that wealth and standard of living are built through generations of family work and sacrifice, not illegally immigrating to mooch off what has already been built in another country.

Please explain the law Trump passed that guarantees your kids will get anything more than they would have in 2016. Its like you're just making up stupid crap again. You're a dumb redneck who finally after 60 years decided to start an S-Corp and you're acting like S-Corps just became a thing during Trump when people like me have been reaping the benefits of using an S-Corp for many years, well before Trump became President.

Trump has done literally nothing for the US economy except make a mockery of it by proving the point that you can have a clown in the White House tweeting and golfing all day and the economy is going to do what's its going to do anyway. There is nothing redeemable or particularly patriotic about wanting your kids to be living off of their parents even after they're dead. But I guess that's a way of life in redneckland.

Yes, we know you're a racist. There is no doubt about this. But now you come across as a creepy old man who lusts after his own daughter, very much the same way Trump lusts after his. The prettiest girl he's ever met? Who the “F” talks that way about their offspring?

[_Themis]

against the best interests of your daughter and her future - and everyone else’s.

Do you really think the federal government has any interest in paying off the national debt?

Trump is the federal government. How do you not understand this. All those republicans have been the federal government for the first two years of Trump's presidency. Trump has no interest in in paying off the national debt and is increasing the deficit. You see some temporary benefits not understanding the massive negatives coming down the road for your daughter that Trump is helping to create. His border polices are not solving the problem and were never meant to. They are meant to create an image of a crisis that he wants to be portrayed as dealing with, but it is all a lie. Just like all his lies to create this image of a great business man and genius he spent billions on. A party needs to be able to get rid of a major problem in it's own ranks, which is Trump, and are proving incapable of doing so.

[_canpakes]

against the best interests of your daughter and her future - and everyone else’s.

Do you really think the federal government has any interest in paying off the national debt?

Your response here conflates two issues. First is the idea of the nation carrying no debt, which I think most folks see as unnecessary or unlikely. The second idea is that ever-increasing debt requires exponentially larger amounts of federal dollars to satisfy interest on the debt. This is what I’m referring to. Your daughter will need to work harder and be guaranteed fewer protections than what you presently enjoy as we continue to increase debt and interest payments, which is what Trump has done more so than any other President. And you’re OK with this because it feeds your pride, at her expense.

My daughter's present and future has been great under Trump. My S Corp has allowed me to put money away in trusts that will be hers once I pass on. My goal is to work right up until that moment because I don't believe in retirement. The concept is a flaw in our culture, a culture of lazy entitled people who think the community owes them a 30 year long free retirement. It gives me comfort knowing she and her little brother will get that money rather than it being forfeited to the state as the left would have.

Working to ensure that your daughter can count on your money to live in her own familial welfare state is your prerogative. But, as others have pointed out, S corporations are not a Trumpian invention. My SO and I have operated one for many years.

Here’s a quick primer on S. Corp history:

Before Congress created S corporations, entrepreneurs had two choices when starting a business. They could form a regular C corporation, enjoy liability protection, but face two layers of federal tax at the corporate and individual level. Or they could choose a partnership or sole proprietorship, enjoy a single layer of taxation at the individual level, but sacrifice the umbrella of liability protection.

Neither choice was optimal for small and family owned businesses. In 1946, the Department of Treasury suggested a third option – merging a single layer of federal tax with comprehensive liability protection.

A few years later, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower found himself under fire from the Democratic Congress for practicing “trickle-down economics” and favoring big corporate interests over the little guy.

At the same time, Republicans and Democrats were increasingly alarmed that too much economic power was being consolidated into the hands of a few wealthy, multinational corporations. This economic centralization was characterized by economists like John Kenneth Galbraith, who saw America’s economic future as a grand balance of power between Big Labor, Big Business, and Big Government. Private enterprise was viewed as a thing of the past.

In response to these concerns, Eisenhower embraced the Treasury proposal and recommended the creation of the small business corporation to Congress. In 1958, led by Democratic Finance Chairman Harry Byrd, Congress acted on Eisenhower’s recommendation, creating subchapter S of the tax code as part of a larger package of miscellaneous tax items. In exchange for enjoying a single layer of tax, entrepreneurs electing S corporation status agreed to the following limitations:

1. They were required to be a domestic enterprise;
2. They were required to have a limited number of shareholders;
3. They were limited by who those shareholders could be; and
4. They could have just one class of stock.

[_Jersey Girl]

My goal is to work right up until that moment because I don't believe in retirement. The concept is a flaw in our culture, a culture of lazy entitled people who think the community owes them a 30 year long free retirement.

ajax you are stereotyping in your above. Not only that, you are ignoring the many folks of retirement age who retire with disabilities.

I am married to one. He is neither lazy nor entitled. Not even close.

[_honorentheos]

I've always believed that wealth and standard of living are built through generations of family work and sacrifice,

There's been a lot said about other aspects of your post, ajax, and some of it has been overly harsh, in my opinion. I don't think there is anything innately wrong in your desire to provide for the future of your daughter and son, and the emotions you expressed in your post are familiar to me as well. I don't think it does the discussion any service to try and turn that into a point of contention.

I do think it's worth discussing the snippet I quoted above because I think whatever your motives may be, you're missing the fact that the political actions you are supporting are working against your own aims whether you realize this or not.

I'll put it simply, and hope you recall we've discussed aspects of this before.

This chart shows that sometime around the 1970s, worker productivity diverts hard from worker compensation:



Put simply, in your and my lifetimes the thing you believe in hasn't been true. Hard work isn't resulting in better compensation.

We've also discussed that over the period from the mid-70s to today the top 0.1% of wealthy Americans have accumulated more of the total wealth of the country than the bottom 50%. This chart shows it as the top 5%, but the biggest shift has been in the wealth holdings of the most elite among the wealthy:



There are many reasons for this, some contradictory to liberal thinking and some compounded by conservative thinking. But what they aren't is reversed by the current tax code changes or the bloated spending focus of the Trump administration.

Your daughter is statistically less likely to have the same standard of living that you have enjoyed simply because you aren't able to secure for her the access to wealth, contacts, and legal protections that prevent the migration of that wealth to the super elite. Unless you are much better off than your posting has implied, you're swimming against the current. And that current is caused in large part by economic policies that have been moving wealth out of the national economy almost completely. You want a revolution that will actually benefit your daughter and be worth sacrificing for? It would take a global uprising against corruption and protectionist behaviors that have the national governments of the world trapped in a tragedy of the commons pitting nation against nation to the economic benefit of fewer and fewer people.

[_ajax18]

My goal is to work right up until that moment because I don't believe in retirement. The concept is a flaw in our culture, a culture of lazy entitled people who think the community owes them a 30 year long free retirement.

ajax you are stereotyping in your above. Not only that, you are ignoring the many folks of retirement age who retire with disabilities.

I am married to one. He is neither lazy nor entitled. Not even close.

I wasn't calling your husband lazy. I'm not sure how you got that from my post unless you were putting it together with previous posts. I do think there are too may people in the wagon but this wasn't the same as my criticism of our national entitled retirement mentality. It's something I'm in the minority on but i personally think if you can work you should be working regardless of your age or how many years you worked before.

There are disabled people who cannot work. But often times they can still find ways to contribute. It's in their best intetest to do so. When we alliow ourselves to do nothing, that often becomes all we can do.

[_honorentheos]

Hey ajax,

Is it wrong that people can go their entire lives without working for a single dollar because their family is the benefactors of some past patriarch's wealth? Is your problem with people relying on society to support them in their old age or do you legitimately believe people should earn an honest living as long as they are physically capable of doing so?