Proof Right Wing Media is a Joke: Mueller's Report

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Proof Right Wing Media is a Joke: Mueller's Report

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This reaction to his recent comments proves they never even bothered to actually read the report when it was released. For weeks they kept saying the Mueller case was over, the report said no evidence of any crimes, etc. Trump called Mueller an honrable man and now he's saying Mueller is a never Trumper who is just lashing out because he wasn't offered a job, etc. The usual from Trump. And now ...

this is how the Right Wing media is responding to Mueller.

It is truly something to behold, but the takeaway here is that this proves they never cared to read the actual report. All Mueller did here is summarize a few key points from his report which the mainstream media has touched upon, and which FOX and the Moron Right kept saying wasn't true.

THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT MUELLER TESTIFY IN PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE CONGRESS.

Because no one reads the damn report. People wan't to hear it from the horse's mouth.

And even folks at FOX News like Brett Baier are acting surprised and they're not attacking Mueller they're basically saying HOLY crap Trump AND BARR HAVE LIED TO US.

And even Judge Napolitano is giving a rude awakening about what Mueller just said.

And everyone on the Left is basically saying, no crap, get with the program. We've known this ever since the report was released.
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What would be much more effective than multiple hours of Mueller essentially reading from his report would be to start calling the witnesses from the obstruction part of the report to testify. Schiff and Pelosi have let their investigation grind to a halt because a couple of big fish won’t play and they’re hung up on the redacted material in the report. They should take the deal offered them to send a couple folks over and look at the unredacted material. If there’s no smoking gun in the redacted material, move on. Look at part two of Barr’s report as the material for a TV series, figure out how best to put it together to form a compelling narrative, and start calling witnesses. Trump doesn’t control all of the little fish, and if he tried to, he’s just making the case for obstruction stronger.
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This is why America is screwed. I third of the country listens to repeats BS on a regular basis.

It seems clear to me that to be a Trump supporter these days, you have to be delusional or an asshole (or some combination thereof): delusional if you don't know what he's doing, an asshole if you do.
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Res Ipsa wrote:What would be much more effective than multiple hours of Mueller essentially reading from his report would be to start calling the witnesses from the obstruction part of the report to testify. Schiff and Pelosi have let their investigation grind to a halt because a couple of big fish won’t play and they’re hung up on the redacted material in the report. They should take the deal offered them to send a couple folks over and look at the unredacted material. If there’s no smoking gun in the redacted material, move on. Look at part two of Barr’s report as the material for a TV series, figure out how best to put it together to form a compelling narrative, and start calling witnesses. Trump doesn’t control all of the little fish, and if he tried to, he’s just making the case for obstruction stronger.


Effective in what sense? I don't believe people who directly tapped into the right-wing propaganda bubble or reliant for impressions on current events from those who are actually have any idea what's going on. Those people overlap substantially with the people who still support President Trump. If Mueller just went before Congress and read the report out loud, that would get such wall-to-wall coverage that it likely would penetrate that propaganda bubble and have some impact on people within its grasp. That in turn likely would be politically effective.

Mueller's brief statement had a taste of this effect, and all the man did was repeat some top-line takeaways from the report that anyone actually familiar with the report would already know.
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EAllusion wrote:Mueller's brief statement had a taste of this effect, and all the man did was repeat some top-line takeaways from anyone actually familiar with the report.


I don't know why people have a hard time understanding this. I knew Trump supporters had never read the Mueller Report but even I was shocked to see how the entire Right Wing propaganda complex had a conniption fit when they heard Mueller speak exactly what the Libs had been saying he said in his report. It proves that none of them read it. And I see Republicans genuinely confused because they were told a big lie and now they're coming to the realization Trump is every bit the criminal the Left has been claiming. Ya think that might affect votes? I do.

Trump voter surprised to learn about key Mueller report revelations

Conservatives Stunned by Mueller Suggesting Trump Is Not Innocent

Rep. Justin Amash’s constituent captures the state of partisanship around Trump.

What I hold against Mueller is his claim that he won't answer any questions that haven't already been addressed in the report when Democrats in the House have claimed there are many questions that need to be answered. Mueller's report is ambiguous at best on many crucial issues. For example, Democrats claim the report says Mueller is leaving it up to Congress to impeach. Republicans say that is their misreading. What's wrong with asking him to his face who is right and who is wrong on their reading of the report? WHo gives a crap if he's afraid his friends and family will shun him for helping the Democrats and who gives a crap if the Democrats are using him as a "prop"? Its his duty to answer the damned questions Congress presents him.
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I feel a Michael Moore documentary coming out in 2020. If not Michael Moore, somebody. Maybe Ken Burns Magnum Opus? We need the Uncle Tom's Cabin of the digital age. The telling of Trump to a mass audience.
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EAllusion wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:What would be much more effective than multiple hours of Mueller essentially reading from his report would be to start calling the witnesses from the obstruction part of the report to testify. Schiff and Pelosi have let their investigation grind to a halt because a couple of big fish won’t play and they’re hung up on the redacted material in the report. They should take the deal offered them to send a couple folks over and look at the unredacted material. If there’s no smoking gun in the redacted material, move on. Look at part two of Barr’s report as the material for a TV series, figure out how best to put it together to form a compelling narrative, and start calling witnesses. Trump doesn’t control all of the little fish, and if he tried to, he’s just making the case for obstruction stronger.


Effective in what sense? I don't believe people who directly tapped into the right-wing propaganda bubble or reliant for impressions on current events from those who are actually have any idea what's going on. Those people overlap substantially with the people who still support President Trump. If Mueller just went before Congress and read the report out loud, that would get such wall-to-wall coverage that it likely would penetrate that propaganda bubble and have some impact on people within its grasp. That in turn likely would be politically effective.

Mueller's brief statement had a taste of this effect, and all the man did was repeat some top-line takeaways from anyone actually familiar with the report.


More effective than Mueller reading sections of his report in answers to questions for hours. Questions from the hearing won’t be asked in any kind of order conducive to constructing a narrative. Mueller’s press conference was effective, in part, because it was relatively brief. Given the attention span of the average American, I just don’t see people sitting through hours of reading from the report.
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Res Ipsa wrote:More effective than Mueller reading sections of his report in answers to questions for hours. Questions from the hearing won’t be asked in any kind of order conducive to constructing a narrative. Mueller’s press conference was effective, in part, because it was relatively brief. Given the attention span of the average American, I just don’t see people sitting through hours of reading from the report.


Millions of Americans sit through faux news shows like FOX for hours every day and if Mueller is reading from the report in congressional hearings then that's what they're going to be talking about. Let Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ask him questions as she's clearly the most effective at it.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
More effective than Mueller reading sections of his report in answers to questions for hours. Questions from the hearing won’t be asked in any kind of order conducive to constructing a narrative. Mueller’s press conference was effective, in part, because it was relatively brief. Given the attention span of the average American, I just don’t see people sitting through hours of reading from the report.


I don't either, which is why I suspect that Mueller reading the report on cable TV would have a significant PR effect.
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Ah, gotcha.
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