Trump says no legislation if investigation continues

[_Res Ipsa]

I went back and looked at the deletion and I do think the first word, “daughter”, should have been left in place. It was the characterization of the daughter to which I objected. If you add back the word “daughter,” Kevin’s hypocrisy argument would be fully presented (unfounded as it is). It was the following description of the daughter (tone and substance) to which I objected. It read to me like a cheap shot at a little girl. But that’s my opinion, and reasonable minds can disagree.

[_honorentheos]

...his beliefs are pre-ideological instincts operating on general right wing media consumption.

I think that's a fair observation. And it speaks to why attacking ajax's "tribe" as a tactic will be counterproductive. It doesn't advance the discussion and leaves one to wonder what the point is, anyway.

If ajax is operating on contradictory, pre-ideological instincts he isn't unusual or alone. And like everyone who starts somewhere in the realm of the pre-ideological, the process to advance into rational ideology requires stepping through the logic and underlying assumptions that feed those instincts. One may question why waste one's time? To which I think the only response is one can only negotiate and find compromise with someone who understands their own position as one with a logical basis. If we want to summarize why Fox news has so successfully damaged national politics its that it has been able to create a critical mass of sycophants united around shared highly emotive instincts about how they are being wronged. The political gridlock may be best broken not by conversion or attempts to replicate it in mirrored leftwing image, but in breaking the hold of the instincts for a more considered conservative ideology.

[_subgenius]

cough............cough

Yeah, that goes for you too. Half the forum already knows where the original information about you came from, and it sure as hell wasn't from me. Same is true for the private information on Doc.

And the Mods can verify this by simply scanning through the PMs I've received from those informants.

You sound like a nazi who was just "following orders".
Nobidy made you be the doxxer you are. Who you are is that guy who, for some reason, feels the need to blatantly and repeatedly, transgress board rules. The worse part is how unaware you are of what it is about you that insists on doxxing as a valid solution to your problem and resolution to your conflict.
sad.

[_Kevin Graham]

You sound like a nazi who was just "following orders".
Nobidy made you be the doxxer you are. Who you are is that guy who, for some reason, feels the need to blatantly and repeatedly, transgress board rules. The worse part is how unaware you are of what it is about you that insists on doxxing as a valid solution to your problem and resolution to your conflict.
sad.

dox: search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet

I've never done this in my life. Your in real life information came from an unlikely source who rarely posts here, but the mods can verify if they want to check the PM I received last September. I wasn't "ordered" to mock your hypocrisy and cowardice, but I did it anyway because you deserved it. Let's not forget that outing a few facts about you was a response to you calling my children spoiled brats and my wife a whore. Something only human garbage would do while hiding behind a pseudonym. But it is weird how you suddenly shut the “F” up when you found out that the man of the family you were demeaning knew who you were, where you lived, who you were married to, who your kids were, etc.

Isn't it just amazing how certain people suddenly change their tone when they know they're no longer posting anonymously?

I don't post anonymously by choice, and I don't mock other family members of posters, nor do I call their wives whores in any roundabout way. This is why I took great offense to RI's claim that I was demeaning someone's daughter. Some folks may even remember about 10 years ago FAIR welcomed me back as a poster simply because I asked all the anti-Mormons on this forum to stop posting images of Julianne and her kids. She was visibly upset about this and posters here were having a field day with the pics. I also got FAIR mods to remove an image of William Schryver's 10 year old daughter which he posted on the boards for some unknown reason. He was too stupid to realize he was just begging someone from this forum to photoshop the hell out of her.

[_ajax18]

Well I guess this sums it all up pretty well. For the record I expect my daughter to be very successful and adopt my views on the importance of work and I'll continue to express my disapproval of our retirement/entitled culture in this country. It amazes me how dangerous it is for one and his family to hold views that would support ending social security. It's no wonder politicians refuse to speak out on it in real life.

[_Xenophon]

Well I guess this sums it all up pretty well. For the record I expect my daughter to be very successful and adopt my views on the importance of work and I'll continue to express my disapproval of our retirement/entitled culture in this country. It amazes me how dangerous it is for one and his family to hold views that would support ending social security. It's no wonder politicians refuse to speak out on it in real life.

Emphasis mine. I'm curious what "danger" you or your family were in here.

I didn't like the post much myself but lets not flare up the ol' persecution complex just because people disagree with your point and see hypocrisy within it.

[_Res Ipsa]

Ditto. If you think getting criticized or insulted on a message board is “dangerous,” you should count your lucky stars that you weren’t born at the time of those Vikings you speak of so fondly.

[_ajax18]

Ditto. If you think getting criticized or insulted on a message board is “dangerous,” you should count your lucky stars that you weren’t born at the time of those Vikings you speak of so fondly.

As long as I'm anonymous none of this can hurt me or my family. But when one wears a MAGA hat or even puts a Trump sticker on their car, there are many ways people retaliate against those who espouse political opinions with which they disagree in real life. This little experiment I've done here has shown just how little it takes to set something like that off and it's clear people like EAllusion and Kevin Graham have no problem targeting family members either.

In ways I really do believe settling issues like this with a personal combat would be easier and more effective.

[_Xenophon]

As long as I'm anonymous none of this can hurt me or my family. But when one wears a MAGA hat or even puts a Trump sticker on their car, there are many ways people retaliate against those who espouse political opinions with which they disagree in real life. This little experiment I've done here has shown just how little it takes to set something like that off and it's clear people like EAllusion and Kevin Graham have no problem targeting family members either.

There are people on every side of the issue that are willing to retaliate. Do you think that is bad in all cases, or only when it is those with MAGA hats that are on the receiving end?

That you perceive Kevin's(and somehow EA?!?) comment that uses your daughter to illustrate a point as being anywhere near the realm of threatening is really more telling of you than anyone else.

In ways I really do believe settling issues like this with a personal combat would be easier and more effective.

Anytime I see you suggest this I can't help but imagine you as something like this:

[_schreech]

As long as I'm anonymous none of this can hurt me or my family. But when one wears a MAGA hat or even puts a Trump sticker on their car, there are many ways people retaliate against those who espouse political opinions with which they disagree in real life. This little experiment I've done here has shown just how little it takes to set something like that off and it's clear people like EAllusion and Kevin Graham have no problem targeting family members either.

That goes double for people wearing "MAGA" hats and people who are shallow, inane and insecure enough to need to announce their political leanings to the world via a sticker on their car. There is no nuance to the "beliefs" of a racist, blind faith trumpster.

That said, you sound like the coward we imagine you all to be, scared of all the librul boogeymen you have been conditioned to believe in. You have sequestered yourself in the arsehole of america, in the heart of Trump country, and act like your unenviable life is somehow threatened by your blind devotion to cheeto von orangecicle. Jeezus, get a grip.