Conservative on Republican Motivations

[_ajax18]

Yet its liberals that implement racisr policies and always want to frame each and every discussion in the context of race....and with an insistence for how only white people can save non-white people.

It is interesting that Martin Luther King's "I have a dream," speech was about the hope of people being judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Look at how far the current Democratic party is from this with affirmative action and their racial identity politics. Why are you judged as benefitting from white privilege? Is it the size of your bank account or your inheritance? Is it that your lineage goes back to the founding of the country? Is it because English is your first language? No, you benefit from white privilege because you are judged by the color of your skin and nothing more! How is that not racist and the very opposite of what Dr. King was dreaming of.

[_Ceeboo]

Yet its liberals that implement racisr policies and always want to frame each and every discussion in the context of race....and with an insistence for how only white people can save non-white people.

It is interesting that Martin Luther King's "I have a dream," speech was about the hope of people being judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Look at how far the current Democratic party is from this.........

That's because the "current democratic party" has completely lost their liberal voice. Personally, I hope they find it again - like really soon - as I believe America as a whole (as well as individuals who live in this great country) deeply needs this voice to find it's way back into the democratic party.

[_EAllusion]

MLK explicitly supported affirmative action. His entire fame is centered around identity politics.

How far Democrats are from MLK for supporting affirmative action and being involved in identity politics is aggressively stupid.

[_EAllusion]

There’s an obnoxious argument in conservative circles that MLK’s I have a dream speech is about ignoring social realities around race. To be consistent with it, you must act as though race does not exist. You must be “colorblind.” So if you try to address racial inequities through means other than admonishing people to ignore race, you are guilty of straying from St. MLK.

This so thoroughly misunderstands what MLK was saying and what his politics were about that it immediately flags people of using this reasoning as profoundly ignorant or acting in bad faith.

But it is popular.

[_Res Ipsa]

Yet its liberals that implement racisr policies and always want to frame each and every discussion in the context of race....and with an insistence for how only white people can save non-white people.

It is interesting that Martin Luther King's "I have a dream," speech was about the hope of people being judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Look at how far the current Democratic party is from this with affirmative action and their racial identity politics. Why are you judged as benefitting from white privilege? Is it the size of your bank account or your inheritance? Is it that your lineage goes back to the founding of the country? Is it because English is your first language? No, you benefit from white privilege because you are judged by the color of your skin and nothing more! How is that not racist and the very opposite of what Dr. King was dreaming of.

The problem, Ajax, is that we aren’t at that day yet. Just as one example, country has a judicial system that, top to bottom, treats black folks different than it treats white folks. Black folks substantially trail white folks in every way that we measure well being in this country, yet white folks like you act as if they have the best of everything.

When black folks were dying from heroin and crack in the inner cities, they received no sympathetic treatment. The answer was mass incarceration for even minor drug offenses. But when the white rural population of the south gets hooked on opioids, why then it’s an emergency that we need to move heaven and earth to help those poor victims.

The last 10 years have shown that there is still deep seated racism in the US. It has been nurtured and stoked by right wing media that portray black folks as people to be feared and to be the targets of anger. State governments, and now the federal government, are taking active measures to suppress the votes of black and brown folks.

So, we haven’t reached the day King dreamed of. Until you and your fellow compatriots stop practicing white identity politics and accept folks as full and equal citizens who belong here as much as white folk do, we’re never going to get there.

[_canpakes]

(y)ou benefit from white privilege because you are judged by the color of your skin and nothing more! How is that not racist and the very opposite of what Dr. King was dreaming of.

Isn’t that the point, considering who may have been - or still is - doing the judging?

[_Chap]

Until you and your fellow compatriots stop practicing white identity politics and accept folks as full and equal citizens who belong here as much as white folk do, we’re never going to get there.

Yup. When the white people who control the vast majority of wealth and power in the US stop judging people by the colour of their skins, I think you will find that black people will be happy to start doing likewise.

[_huckelberry]

Ajax has explained a central problem. When white people hear comments about white privilege they feel like their personal character is being attacked and they feel guilt that they do not like to feel.

Perhaps people have trouble learning how to deal with feelings of guilt. Perhaps more adult is needed in America. Perhaps our Christianity has distorted into escaping guilt instead of dealing in positive ways with it. Perhaps people cling to their sense of superiority.
All of the above I suspect.

This is the part of Americas race problem which can only be fixed by white people.

[_Res Ipsa]

Ajax has explained a central problem. When white people hear comments about white privilege they feel like their personal character is being attacked and they feel guilt that they do not like to feel.

Perhaps people have trouble learning how to deal with feelings of guilt. Perhaps more adult is needed in America. Perhaps our Christianity has distorted into escaping guilt instead of dealing in positive ways with it. Perhaps people cling to their sense of superiority.
All of the above I suspect.

This is the part of Americas race problem which can only be fixed by white people.

Having any flavor of privilege is nothing to feel guilty about. Denying that privilege exists, on the other hand ...

[_EAllusion]

Ajax has explained a central problem. When white people hear comments about white privilege they feel like their personal character is being attacked and they feel guilt that they do not like to feel.

Perhaps people have trouble learning how to deal with feelings of guilt. Perhaps more adult is needed in America. Perhaps our Christianity has distorted into escaping guilt instead of dealing in positive ways with it. Perhaps people cling to their sense of superiority.
All of the above I suspect.

This is the part of Americas race problem which can only be fixed by white people.

Having any flavor of privilege is nothing to feel guilty about. Denying that privilege exists, on the other hand ...

The thing is, there absolutely are obnoxiously woke leftists with dubious views who substitute smug condescension and power for persuasion and tolerance of criticism. Ajax has approximately zero interaction with them, though. The closest he comes is when sources he reads hunts down outlier examples to function as a strawman for much stronger positions he'd prefer to disagree with without thinking about.

The result is that he is constantly shadowboxing with positions he doesn't seem to understand, but make him very, very mad.