A Living Wage, Please!

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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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canpakes wrote:Meanwhile, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Minority Whip Steve Scalise are in talks to back this same pay raise.

subs isn’t allowed to tell you that, though.

No, it just is not relevant...unless McCarthy and Scalise are like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and on record supporting contrary positions.....and if they are also on record, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, claiming that without a pay raise they are likely to have little other choice but to turn to crime.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Meanwhile, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Minority Whip Steve Scalise are in talks to back this same pay raise.

subs isn’t allowed to tell you that, though.

No, it just is not relevant...unless McCarthy and Scalise are like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and on record supporting contrary positions.....and if they are also on record, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, claiming that without a pay raise they are likely to have little other choice but to turn to crime.

Contrary? Can you quote me where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez states that folks should not ever receive COL raises?

And then, quote me where she says that she’ll have to turn to crime if she doesn’t get one?

Thanks; I’ll go get some popcorn while you try to construct a comprehensible, fact-based response.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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It’s not criminal for Congresspeople to spend their terms cultivating relationships with industry so they can get cash-out jobs once they are out of office. It’s not criminal that Congresspeople outsource the job of researching and writing bills to the very parties those bills are meant to regulate. It’s just not good.

One means to insulate against this is by adequately funding Congressional jobs. Contrary to Ajax up thread, no one is saying s this stops all corruption, but it helps.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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EAllusion wrote:It’s not criminal for Congresspeople to spend their terms cultivating relationships with industry so they can get cash-out jobs once they are out of office. It’s not criminal that Congresspeople outsource the job of researching and writing bills to the very parties those bills are meant to regulate. It’s just not good.

So, solar companies should not be party to climate legislation? Medical companies (ie doctors) should not be involved in healthcare legislation?
You would have deaf people regulate sound while blind people regulate light...got it!

EAllusion wrote:One means to insulate against this is by adequately funding Congressional jobs. Contrary to Ajax up thread, no one is saying s this stops all corruption, but it helps.

Which is the point of the OP. First, are you suggesting that $145k salary plus the benefits and privileges of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's job is not, or is just at, being adequately funded?
And there are cointless jobs across America that arguably are not adequately funded but that does not conclude with criminal activity nor does it justify criminal activity.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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canpakes wrote:Contrary? Can you quote me where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez states that folks should not ever receive COL raises?

And then, quote me where she says that she’ll have to turn to crime if she doesn’t get one?

Thanks; I’ll go get some popcorn while you try to construct a comprehensible, fact-based response.

The OP literally quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stating that the absence of a raise results in crime...literally....a fact....no wonder you can't recognize it...its an actual fact, a.k.a. incomprehensible to the presupposition laden echo chamber of a liberal like yourself.

And i never claimed she said anything about COL raise...i simply noted that her position wasn't about COL, but rather hers was, clearly, a position that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. If you believe her current salary is untenable to living in DC or NYC then feel free to argue that point. The OP has set forth facts that lay just beyond your incessant distraction for snacks.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Contrary? Can you quote me where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez states that folks should not ever receive COL raises?

And then, quote me where she says that she’ll have to turn to crime if she doesn’t get one?

Thanks; I’ll go get some popcorn while you try to construct a comprehensible, fact-based response.

The OP literally quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stating that the absence of a raise results in crime...literally....a fact....no wonder you can't recognize it...its an actual fact, a.k.a. incomprehensible to the presupposition laden echo chamber of a liberal like yourself.

And i never claimed she said anything about COL raise...i simply noted that her position wasn't about COL, but rather hers was, clearly, a position that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. If you believe her current salary is untenable to living in DC or NYC then feel free to argue that point. The OP has set forth facts that lay just beyond your incessant distraction for snacks.


Just want to confirm ... is this your answer?

Last chance to make corrections ...
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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subgenius wrote:The OP literally quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stating that the absence of a raise results in crime...literally....a fact....no wonder you can't recognize it...its an actual fact, a.k.a. incomprehensible to the presupposition laden echo chamber of a liberal like yourself.

... but rather hers was, clearly, a position that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. If you believe her current salary is untenable to living in DC or New York City then feel free to argue that point. The OP has set forth facts that lay just beyond your incessant distraction for snacks.


"Dark money loopholes" aren't crimes. The word "loophole" should've been your tip-off. And she's not necessarily referring to herself. She's stating that lower pay creates incentives for people with her job to monetize it more through the means available to do so.

Because you can't read or tell the truth, this apparently becomes difficult for you to deal with. And so you help serve the role of moron that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's media team likes to imply all critics of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez must be.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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EAllusion wrote:
subgenius wrote:The OP literally quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stating that the absence of a raise results in crime...literally....a fact....no wonder you can't recognize it...its an actual fact, a.k.a. incomprehensible to the presupposition laden echo chamber of a liberal like yourself.

... but rather hers was, clearly, a position that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. If you believe her current salary is untenable to living in DC or New York City then feel free to argue that point. The OP has set forth facts that lay just beyond your incessant distraction for snacks.


"Dark money loopholes" aren't crimes. The word "loophole" should've been your tip-off. And she's not necessarily referring to herself. She's stating that lower pay creates incentives for people with her job to monetize it more through the means available to do so.

Because you can't read or tell the truth, this apparently becomes difficult for you to deal with. And so you help serve the role of moron that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's media team likes to imply all critics of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez must be.

EA for the win on understanding the actual meaning of common English words. (thanks, EA; this was going to be my first point!)

And this part:

And i never claimed she said anything about COL raise...i simply noted that her position wasn't about COL, but rather hers was, clearly, a position that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. If you believe her current salary is untenable to living in DC or NYC then feel free to argue that point.

This is another unfortunate display of your comprehension difficulties, as nowhere in that tweet does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez state that her current pay status could not prevent a life of crime. Nor does anything in her tweet assert, as you claimed in the previous statement (before your soft backpedal) that “the OP literally quotes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stating that the absence of a raise results in crime...literally....a fact...”.

I’d ask you to draw the line between your poor interpretations and what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually said, but you’re going to be unable to meet that request. There’s no need to belabor your failure, here. Right?

The OP has set forth facts that lay just beyond your incessant distraction for snacks.

No, the OP posted a moron’s response to an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweet, which displayed both the moron’s inadequate English comprehension skills along with your tendency to jump on the bandwagon of moronic partisan talking points... which you’ll end up having to abandon later when you realize that you’re incapable of defending your newly-adopted moronic talking point.

Anyhow ... you really should look into some remedial language classes at your local community college, subs. I think that you’ll find them useful.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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subgenius wrote:bonus challenge: respond to this post without mentioning a Republican as justification for your poor choice in party affiliation.

I'm having enough problems with my aging eyes without emulating that blind eye to the Trump crime wave which has afflicted the Republican party.
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Re: A Living Wage, Please!

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EAllusion wrote:It’s not criminal for Congresspeople to spend their terms cultivating relationships with industry so they can get cash-out jobs once they are out of office. It’s not criminal that Congresspeople outsource the job of researching and writing bills to the very parties those bills are meant to regulate. It’s just not good.

One means to insulate against this is by adequately funding Congressional jobs. Contrary to Ajax up thread, no one is saying s this stops all corruption, but it helps.


Thanks to you and the other posters in this thread who have saved me the trouble of further explaining the obvious problems with the OP. If I thought subgenius was posting the nonsense he does because he was simply trolling, I would be annoyed. But I think he really believes he is making sense.

And that is sad.
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