canpakes wrote:I’m totally aware of the ‘document services’ available to non-cits looking for work. I personally had to vet docs including SS cards at one time for a landscape design/build firm. I never saw any come in with matching numbers (lol), but one learns right away how to distinguish the real SS cards from the fakes pretty reliably as quick as it takes to feel the card, due to the intaglio printing process used.
Employers no longer care if they are fake or not, we all know, it is no more than a joke...illegals are the work force in many industries and it is beyond policing.
We are based out of LA county...out of the scores of workers we have, we struggle manning projects in San Diego counties because of the Border patrol presence on the 5 and 15. E verify was and is a joke and only hurts immigrants going by the rules. Again, a joke and waste of money.
I'm curious if you view this as being in conflict with market forces and Capitalism or if you recognize the relationship of this behaviour with other aspects of conservative thought?
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Markk wrote:People posting images of bars drawn by a child is just eye candy to folks with an agenda.
No they aren't. They are psychological and emotional expressions that give us cues to the situation and environment through the eyes of children. Do you know what the least restrictive environment means?
I agree with this. Kids have a way of incorporating their perceived environment into their drawings. When I was 5, I lived in California, during a particularly bad year for mudslides. I realized this many years after the fact because as an adult I ran across a stash of my primitive drawings, of houses being squished by mudslides - no joke. I had no understanding of the impact of mudslides at that age, but I must have been aware enough of them to perceive them as the typical state of my local environment.
I’d imagine that kids in ‘secured’ facilities would similarly incorporate their observed environment into their own drawings, even if not immediately aware of the impact of that environment on themselves or their futures.
Markk wrote:There is nothing different happening now under Trump that was happening under Obama, or Bush...there is just more of it.
How many children died in US custody during the administrations that you named?
Markk is fundamentally wrong. The Obama admin reacted poorly initially to increased numbers of Central American migrants, mostly unaccompanied minors of ages over 12. But they met the challenge by respecting the law that limited the amount of time a minor can be detained. It resulted in the conservative claim what they did amounted to catch and release. As always, there's a very poor understanding of the dynamics involved in the glossy, headline versions of what is going on and both sides are guilty of it. It's just that the conservative fake news headline is driven by the President of the US now as confirmed by the major conservative news outlets. Obama erred on the side of trying to stay above the oversimplified polemics of the debate but it goes to show where there is a vacuum the lowest narrative points will come to fill it.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Markk wrote:People posting images of bars drawn by a child is just eye candy to folks with an agenda.
No they aren't. They are psychological and emotional expressions that give us cues to the situation and environment through the eyes of children. Do you know what the least restrictive environment means?
You are being used by the media. Most of these kids have more in custody while being processed than they had in their country including food and medical care. You are simply spoon fed Jersey Girl.
I have no idea how many children died in custody, or how many died walking in the desert or drowned...or that were sold into sexual slavery by very bad people, during any administration, and ether do you. How many die in US hospitals after coming here sick? Again you don't know.
The problem is that we have a border and we have to process hundreds of thousand of people flooding the borders. Shall we just open the border, is that your answer?
Here is a idea I have, both parties get together and solve the problem instead of blaming each other. This is not just about one party, it is about our goverment being idiots.
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
honorentheos wrote:How many children died in US custody during the administrations that you named?
Markk is fundamentally wrong. The Obama admin reacted poorly initially to increased numbers of Central American migrants, mostly unaccompanied minors of ages over 12. But they met the challenge by respecting the law that limited the amount of time a minor can be detained. It resulted in the conservative claim what they did amounted to catch and release. As always, there's a very poor understanding of the dynamics involved in the glossy, headline versions of what is going on and both sides are guilty of it. It's just that the conservative fake news headline is driven by the President of the US now as confirmed by the major conservative news outlets. Obama erred on the side of trying to stay above the oversimplified polemics of the debate but it goes to show where there is a vacuum the lowest narrative points will come to fill it.[/quote] What did I say that is "wrong?" There are 100's of thousand of people flooding our borders, and the idiots in Washington are using the way to get votes, neither care about the people. Trump of all people is Ironically, right or wrong, trying to solve the problem. Pelosi is doing absolutely nothing. It like most things in washing ton a joke.
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
You’re wrong. People are brought in, detained/retained, reviewed and screened, and released, either here, or their home country...unless they have a hold or a warrant.
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
Jersey Girl wrote:No they aren't. They are psychological and emotional expressions that give us cues to the situation and environment through the eyes of children. Do you know what the least restrictive environment means?
You are being used by the media. Most of these kids have more in custody while being processed than they had in their country including food and medical care. You are simply spoon fed Jersey Girl.
Who exactly do you think you're talking to? You can't answer the question and so what? This is your idea of posturing?
I have no idea how many children died in custody, or how many died walking in the desert or drowned...or that were sold into sexual slavery by very bad people, during any administration, and ether do you. How many die in US hospitals after coming here sick? Again you don't know.
My question was specific enough that you should have been able to answer it given your claims. Thank you for admitting that your claim was BS.
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