Drawings by immigrant children

[_honorentheos]

Okay now I'm stuck on this issue. :-) If I sent down a shipment to one of these facilities do you all think they'd keep it and use it for the children? Or do you think they'd rip it off and take it home?

They were turning away donations of soap and toothbrushes. So...

ETA: Here's a link reporting on Ted Cruz asking Homeland Security to start accept donations: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dhs-f ... ar-AADKHCO

Turns out they can't accept them by law. Good times.

[_Jersey Girl]

Okay now I'm stuck on this issue. :-) If I sent down a shipment to one of these facilities do you all think they'd keep it and use it for the children? Or do you think they'd rip it off and take it home?

They were turning away donations of soap and toothbrushes. So...

ETA: Here's a link reporting on Ted Cruz asking Homeland Security to start accept donations: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dhs-f ... ar-AADKHCO

Turns out they can't accept them by law. Good times.

I just read it. Thanks, honor.

Sheesh.

[_honorentheos]

Yeah. Funny how our laws work well when it comes to keeping kids from receiving those back room diaper donations intended to secure favor from government. But they don't seem to work as well when it comes to preventing the President from profiting from foreign interests and events held at or near one of his properties.

God bless America.

[_Jersey Girl]

Yeah. Funny how our laws work well when it comes to keeping kids from receiving those back room diaper donations intended to secure favor from government. But they don't seem to work as well when it comes to preventing the President from profiting from foreign interests and events held at or near one of his properties.

God bless America.

Amen.

[_Markk]

The underlying issue with Markk's claims and behaviour is he seems to not accept the basic process of discussion. Instead, he seems to primarily view the process of online discussion as consisting of competing appeals to authority. He claims anecdotes as evidence all the time and asserts people who post information that challenges his view are data mining so no need to provide counter information.

It seems Markk just doesn't grasp how knowledge works.

Bull, you failed to look at the bigger picture due to your political ideology. We have a huge problem at the border...you made the mistake of falling in hook, line, and sinker that it is somehow Trump's and conservative policies fault...which is just, again, bull.

You obviously got butt hurt (calling me names) when you realized how shallow your view of the problem is and began surfing for a answer that fits your narrative, while missing the fact that more people, far more people, died/die in the deserts, than in the detention centers. In fact the folks are getting much better care in these centers than on the Mexico side of the border also, and certainly wandering in the desert with coyotes. Maybe, just maybe, Trump's criticism of Mexico is very warranted.

The only alternative is the open the borders up, and have a free for all, or our politicians actually get together and work together. We are the greatest nation to ever exist, we can solve this if we get together.

[_Jersey Girl]

The underlying issue with Markk's claims and behaviour is he seems to not accept the basic process of discussion. Instead, he seems to primarily view the process of online discussion as consisting of competing appeals to authority. He claims anecdotes as evidence all the time and asserts people who post information that challenges his view are data mining so no need to provide counter information.

It seems Markk just doesn't grasp how knowledge works.

Bull, you failed to look at the bigger picture due to your political ideology. We have a huge problem at the border...you made the mistake of falling in hook, line, and sinker that it is somehow Trump's and conservative policies fault...which is just, again, bull.

You obviously got butt hurt (calling me names) when you realized how shallow your view of the problem is and began surfing for a answer that fits your narrative, while missing the fact that more people, far more people, died/die in the deserts, than in the detention centers. In fact the folks are getting much better care in these centers than on the Mexico side of the border also, and certainly wandering in the desert with coyotes. Maybe, just maybe, Trump's criticism of Mexico is very warranted.

The only alternative is the open the borders up, and have a free for all, or our politicians actually get together and work together. We are the greatest nation to ever exist, we can solve this if we get together.

THE FREAKING TOPIC IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S DRAWINGS. GET ON TOPIC.

[_honorentheos]

Hey dumbass, how hard is it to read the point made multiple times that Trump's policies making it more difficult to apply for asylum encourages desert crossings? What's worse now than before is they are prosecuting people for trying to help by leaving water in the desert.

Sorry Jersey Girl.

[_Markk]

THE FREAKING TOPIC IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S DRAWINGS. GET ON TOPIC.

Read your second post, you made it about Trump Jersey Girl. You used “the drawings” as an emotional, ignorant, media driven, argument that having Children in immigration seeking detention centers is his fault...when in fact it is a policy that has been around long before he was President. And you ignored the fact they are safer in a detention center than wandering in the desert, or in border town Mexico...heck, along with food, shelter, medical treatment, we also give them paper and crayons to draw with.

The articles pasted show the worst possible pic’s, they don’t show these folks getting food and medical treatment, and if not granted a temporary stay here, until their hearing, a free plane ride back to their country of origin...which is far more than most any other country would do.

Own your post ...why did you put the blame on Trump, for these “drawings” if it is just about the drawings? My opinion as to why is that you are sucked into a political agenda, and you can’t objectively see through that view and see that there are two sides to the issue...which the major issue is...do you want a open border, if not, what do you expect our government does with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants flooding a system that can’t handle it...?

[_Markk]

Hey d__a__, how hard is it to read the point made multiple times that Trump's policies making it more difficult to apply for asylum encourages desert crossings? What's worse now than before is they are prosecuting people for trying to help by leaving water in the desert.

Sorry Jersey Girl.

LOL...okay I am a dumb ass, and you are media whore, and the left wing media is your pimp.

Then you concede the detention centers are safer than the desert.

Is Trump’s goal, whether it works of not, by building a wall and beefing up security along the border, is to keep border crossing where they should be, in the safer detention centers.

A well coached immigrant, or a immigrant that actually needs asylum, can get into the US very easily based on our current laws...and many receive that daily. If they do not pass this “test”...then they are sent home, many times with a free plane ride if anywhere but Mexico.

Why do you believe these immigrants are flooding the centers Honor? It is not like we are in Mexico forcing them to these centers.

[_honorentheos]

A well coached immigrant, or a immigrant that actually needs asylum, can get into the US very easily based on our current laws

How about you "p-hack" your best reference to support the above instead of perpetuating these "Nu uh!" responses?