Epstein's underage sex ring knew all the best people
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Does anyone still think that it is at all plausible that Trump himself was not significantly involved in these shenanigans? Would any of you Trump supporters still continue to support or vote for Trump if you knew he was, or even if you thought there were a high probability that he just knew about it, without reporting it to duly appropriate law enforcement authorities?
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I don't know how many different kinds of cluster this administration can accomplish.
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Res Ipsa wrote:Epstein and his plea deal stink to high heaven. I hope the prosecutors chase down all the culpable parties, lock ‘em up, and throw away the key. And I don’t mean at a club fed.
I also hope anyone responsible for that outrageous plea deal is fully exposed. And not Epstein’s type of exposure.
Especially Trump, if he had anything to do with it!
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Gunnar wrote:Does anyone still think that it is at all plausible that Trump himself was not significantly involved in these shenanigans? Would any of you Trump supporters still continue to support or vote for Trump if you knew he was, or even if you thought there were a high probability that he just knew about it, without reporting it to duly appropriate law enforcement authorities?
The plea deal was in 2008, so that would have been during the Bush administration. As to whether Trump has sex with underage girls, I’m happy to wait for all the evidence to come out.
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Res Ipsa wrote:The plea deal was in 2008, so that would have been during the Bush administration. As to whether Trump has sex with underage girls, I’m happy to wait for all the evidence to come out.
In the light of all the things that Trump has apparently already gotten away with, what do you think the odds are that after all the evidence comes out that the bulk of the Republican leadership in congress will display both the sufficient integrity and courage to actively oppose and depose Trump, even if that evidence compellingly indicates that he did or does have sex with underage girls?
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Gunnar wrote:Res Ipsa wrote:The plea deal was in 2008, so that would have been during the Bush administration. As to whether Trump has sex with underage girls, I’m happy to wait for all the evidence to come out.
In the light of all the things that Trump has apparently already gotten away with, what do you think the odds are that after all the evidence comes out that the bulk of the Republican leadership in congress will display both the sufficient integrity and courage to actively oppose and depose Trump, even if that evidence compellingly indicates that he did or does have sex with underage girls?
The only thing that would cause the republicans in Congress to oppose Trump would be clear evidence that the party would suffer massive losses in the Congress and at the state level unless they cut him loose. That would require a huge turnaround in his base, who I think would rather have a kiddie diddler in office than any democrat. Perhaps if Limbaugh, Hannity, Breitbart, etc. were to turn on him, it might happen. But I don’t see those folks giving up their current gig, which is damn lucrative.
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Res Ipsa wrote:The only thing that would cause the republicans in Congress to oppose Trump would be clear evidence that the party would suffer massive losses in the Congress and at the state level unless they cut him loose. That would require a huge turnaround in his base, who I think would rather have a kiddie diddler in office than any democrat. Perhaps if Limbaugh, Hannity, Breitbart, etc. were to turn on him, it might happen. But I don’t see those folks giving up their current gig, which is damn lucrative.
That's what I'm afraid of! I don't know what outrages and saddens me the most: that the Trump administration relies so heavily on outright racism and xenophobia to appeal to voters (especially their base supporters), or that that blatantly immoral approach seems to be working as well as it does!
At least two of my brothers are ardent Trump supporters. I could hardly be more disappointed or dismayed at them for that than if I found out for sure that they were racial and religious and misogynistic bigots themselves (which, sadly, I am no absolutely longer confident they are not)!
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Gunnar wrote:At least two of my brothers are ardent Trump supporters. I could hardly be more disappointed or dismayed at them for that than if I found out for sure that they were racial and religious and misogynistic bigots themselves (which, sadly, I am no absolutely longer confident they are not)!
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Holy crap, how is this not the news of the day?
Trump’s Kentucky Campaign Chair Pleads Guilty to Child Sex Trafficking
One of President Trump’s loudest supporters will likely spend the rest of his life in jail after the conclusion of his child sex trafficking case.
71-year-old Timothy Nolan — a former Campbell County District Judge who was chair of the Trump campaign in Kentucky according to court documents — entered guilty pleas on all 21 counts against him in court on Friday. A press release issued by the office of Kentucky Attorney General Andy Beshear listed a multitude of charges, including human trafficking of adults, human trafficking of minors, and unlawful transaction with minors.

Trump’s Kentucky Campaign Chair Pleads Guilty to Child Sex Trafficking
One of President Trump’s loudest supporters will likely spend the rest of his life in jail after the conclusion of his child sex trafficking case.
71-year-old Timothy Nolan — a former Campbell County District Judge who was chair of the Trump campaign in Kentucky according to court documents — entered guilty pleas on all 21 counts against him in court on Friday. A press release issued by the office of Kentucky Attorney General Andy Beshear listed a multitude of charges, including human trafficking of adults, human trafficking of minors, and unlawful transaction with minors.

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Whomever was involved with this Epstein character, committing the same acts, string them up. If Prince Andrew, string him up. If one or more of the Clinton's, string them up. If Ehud Barak, string him up. If Trump, impeach him and then string him up too. This shouldn't be made into a partisan issue.
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