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MissTish wrote:Those underage marriages were primarliy in the - wait for it- New Jersey Haredi jewish community, not the Muslim one. And many in that community opposed the bill banning them, and held it up.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/why-new ... -1.6152985

Can you give me some statistics? The article doesn't say "not the Muslim one". The article is consistent with the Reuters article, "Rates of underage marriage are high in southern, rural states with a high prevalence of poverty and religious conservatism, as well as among Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Sikhs and Hmongs"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1MZ024

California has the largest Muslim population in the US, so it is probably not a coincidence. Muslims in California are probably contributing a lot to the child marriage rates.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Can you give me some statistics?

Can you give me some? Maybe something on the number of muslim underage marriages in CA? Or perhaps something on the ass kissing part?
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MissTish wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:Can you give me some statistics?

Can you give me some? Maybe something on the number of muslim underage marriages in CA? Or perhaps something on the ass kissing part?

Well let me look for them. But I do have the Reuters article, "Rates of underage marriage are high in southern, rural states with a high prevalence of poverty and religious conservatism, as well as among Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Sikhs and Hmongs". And CA has the largest Muslim population in the US.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1MZ024

But let me look for some statistics and I will get back to you. If I am wrong I will retract.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Well let me look for them. But I do have the Reuters article, "Rates of underage marriage are high in southern, rural states with a high prevalence of poverty and religious conservatism, as well as among Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Sikhs and Hmongs". And CA has the largest Muslim population in the US.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1MZ024

But let me look for some statistics and I will get back to you. If I am wrong I will retract.

Interesting that the Reuters article lists the Orthodox first. Is there any Mormon, Sikh or Hmong ass kissing, or is it only muslim tuchus' that gets a buss?
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MissTish wrote:Interesting that the Reuters article lists the Orthodox first. Is there any Mormon, Sikh or Hmong ass kissing, or is it only muslim tuchus' that gets a buss?


There are way more Muslims in California than Orthodox Jews, sikhs, and Hmongs. It is not clear if the campaign group meant fundamentalist Mormons, but are more Muslims than Mormons in CA.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:Think before you post. The majority of Muslims live somewhere other than California. The percentage of Muslims in New Jersey is higher than in CA.

But there are more Muslims in California than in New Jersey. A large Muslims population does affect the child marriage rates.

It is probably not a coincidence that New Jersey had the second highest child marriage rate in the Northeast, but New Jersey did stop kissing ass in 2018. According to a Politico article, "almost 3,500 marriages involving at least one partner under 18 took place in New Jersey from 1995 to 2012. Of those, 163 involved at least one spouse 15 or younger. Most were religious arranged marriages."

https://www.politico.com/states/new-jer ... tie-111987

So why is California not doing anything about child marriage? It is just so sad.

Res Ipsa wrote: You’re trying to rationalize something pretty ugly. There are people who accuse liberals of liking to kiss Jew ass. You know what we call them?

Explain to me how saying that liberals like to kiss Muslim ass is any different?

I think Donald Trump is Netanyahu's puppet. I just don't like religion.

DT, it’s remedial math. California has more Muslims than New Jersey because California has way more people than New Jersey. The percentage of Muslims is 3x higher in New Jersey.

What you have is exactly zero evidence that the law in California has anything to do with Muslims. You just made that up in your bigoted little brain. You actually have no idea how many marriages of minors are performed each year. You don’t know how long the law in California has been that way. You think it’s outrageous that California isn’t doing anything without even looking to see whether California has done anything. You haven’t bothered to look for or consider why forbidding marriage for folks under 17 might be a bad thing. All you have is ignorance, bigotry, and a couple factoids you’ve latched onto that confirmation bias tells you support your bigotry.
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Res Ipsa wrote:DT, it’s remedial math. California has more Muslims than New Jersey because California has way more people than New Jersey.

Right. But what matters is the child marriage rate, not the Muslim rate. The large Muslim population could be contributing a lot to child marriage in CA.

Res Ipsa wrote:What you have is exactly zero evidence that the law in California has anything to do with Muslims. You just made that up in your bigoted little brain.

Back to New Jersey, the governor in 2017 said, “I agree that protecting the well-being, dignity, and freedom of minors is vital, but the severe bar this bill creates is not necessary to address the concerns voiced by the bill’s proponents and does not comport with the sensibilities and, in some cases, the religious customs, of the people of this State,” Christie said in his veto message.

I suspect law-makers in CA think the same thing. If not, then why isn't California stopping child marriage?

Res Ipsa wrote: You actually have no idea how many marriages of minors are performed each year. You don’t know how long the law in California has been that way. You think it’s outrageous that California isn’t doing anything without even looking to see whether California has done anything.

Okay. Please explain. Why is California not doing anything to stop child marriage? Can you give me a reason.

Res Ipsa wrote: You haven’t bothered to look for or consider why forbidding marriage for folks under 17 might be a bad thing. All you have is ignorance, bigotry, and a couple factoids you’ve latched onto that confirmation bias tells you support your bigotry.

Child marriage is not always a bad thing? So explain why the legal age of consent in California is strictly 18 with no close in age exemption? Why not 16 or 17 like many US states? It makes no sense.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Back to New Jersey, the governor in 2017 said, “I agree that protecting the well-being, dignity, and freedom of minors is vital, but the severe bar this bill creates is not necessary to address the concerns voiced by the bill’s proponents and does not comport with the sensibilities and, in some cases, the religious customs, of the people of this State,” Christie said in his veto message.

I suspect law-makers in CA think the same thing.

Do you think that CC was referring only to Muslim's religious customs?
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MissTish wrote:Do you think that CC was referring only to Muslim's religious customs?

No, I said, "I suspect law-makers in CA think the same thing. If not, then why isn't California stopping child marriage?"
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
canpakes wrote:Why are you so fixated on California, with the same problem happening more often in your backyard? ; )

It is a bigger problem in California.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... -by-state/

I think it is because California likes to kiss a lot of Muslim ass.

At the Pew link you posted here it says "It is most common in West Virginia and Texas, where about seven of every 1,000 15- to 17-year-olds were married in 2014. Several other states in the South and the West, including Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Nevada and California, also have above-average rates of child marriage. "

Why did you skip over all the other states listed, including WV and Texas, who have the highest rates, and focus on CA and Muslim asses? Nothing to say about Nevada? Oklahoma? Seven other states are mentioned besides CA.
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