SteelHead wrote:Sorry subs I am not politicizing anything. When we can't go to a music venue, a community festival, or Walmart without the risk of being shot - it is time to evaluate causes and seek solutions.
I'm in El Paso this weekend. The reports of an active shooter went out during the event I am attending. This community is reeling. This type of crap needs to stop.
And by broken, how many mass shootings are going to have to happen before we as a culture decide to actually do something to remediate the problem?
I was not disputing the existence of a problem. But the brainwashed hair fire reaction of "gun control" is sophomoric....and your post is quick to politicize a problem for superficial gains. You literally move the goalposts on your sentiment about "we are broken", and simply turn your post into a shallow call to vote on a platform that does not apply. Your proposed argument is flawed and weak, yet you will continue to go to the dry well because its really the only bucket the DNC has on these matters.
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subgenius wrote:I was not disputing the existence of a problem. But the brainwashed hair fire reaction of "gun control" is sophomoric....and your post is quick to politicize a problem for superficial gains. You literally move the goalposts on your sentiment about "we are broken", and simply turn your post into a shallow call to vote on a platform that does not apply. Your proposed argument is flawed and weak, yet you will continue to go to the dry well because its really the only bucket the DNC has on these matters.
Interesting. Your history of posts within this board is the best display of intentional deception and cumpulsive insulting, but here you go again with reverting to the only routine you know in the wake of this event.
Your behavior and characterizations are a great example of what fosters the mindsets of your ideological fellows to culminate in these sorts of events.
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subgenius wrote: But the brainwashed hair fire reaction of "gun control" is sophomoric....and your post is quick to politicize a problem for superficial gains. You literally move the goalposts on your sentiment about "we are broken", and simply turn your post into a shallow call to vote on a platform that does not apply. Your proposed argument is flawed and weak, yet you will continue to go to the dry well because its really the only bucket the DNC has on these matters.
No. It is not sophomoric. No, it is not a platform that does not apply.
While it's not the only measure we need to be taking, gun control absolutely is part of that necessary and responsible response.
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Jersey Girl wrote:While it's not the only measure we need to be taking, gun control absolutely is part of that necessary and responsible response.
I think Democrats should start making the association between mass shootings and universal health care. If the root of the problem is mental health, shouldn't we be doing everything we can to get these crazy shooters the help they need before they go nuts and start killing people?
GOP: Empty thoughts and prayers
Democrats: We need universal mental health care!
They should repeat that and Moscow Mitch daily until the election.
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subgenius wrote: But the brainwashed hair fire reaction of "gun control" is sophomoric....and your post is quick to politicize a problem for superficial gains. You literally move the goalposts on your sentiment about "we are broken", and simply turn your post into a shallow call to vote on a platform that does not apply. Your proposed argument is flawed and weak, yet you will continue to go to the dry well because its really the only bucket the DNC has on these matters.
No. It is not sophomoric. No, it is not a platform that does not apply.
While it's not the only measure we need to be taking, gun control absolutely is part of that necessary and responsible response.
How so? we have good, sensible, and stringent "gun control" in many places where violence with a gun is a serious problem. You guys are liiterally oblivious to the similarity of how you effectively are just chanting "build that wall" at guns. Its funny, but its also useless except for campaign fundraising. But perhaps im relyung to much on empirical evidence...maybe you guys can explain how "gun control" would solve the problem?, a problem that has yet to be articulated by the way....aside from the rhetorical Ross Perot approach of proposing policy via an exclamation of "we are broken".
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Jersey Girl wrote:While it's not the only measure we need to be taking, gun control absolutely is part of that necessary and responsible response.
I think Democrats should start making the association between mass shootings and universal health care. If the root of the problem is mental health, shouldn't we be doing everything we can to get these crazy shooters the help they need before they go nuts and start killing people?
GOP: Empty thoughts and prayers
Democrats: We need universal mental health care!
They should repeat that and Moscow Mitch daily until the election.
Mental health and gun control need to be addressed as priority. And additionally, addressing education and poverty/economy.
I think it bears mentioning that in most of these shootings, we are looking at young men whose brains have yet to fully develop (frontal lobe--executive function) when mental illness often rears it's ugly head. Schizophrenia, bi polar, depression/anxiety.
Just like my family member who suicided.
These vulnerable young men are falling through the cracks and we're giving them access to any damn weapon of their choice.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Is there any reason to think these recent spree killings were committed by people who were mentally ill? Unless you define anyone who commits such an act as mentally ill, which you shouldn’t, I am not seeing it.
The non-mentally ill are more prone to violence than the mentally ill are. Mass shooters are not always or even typically mentally ill. It seems like a red herring to bring up.