FOX NEWS is the MEDIA OUTLET FOR WHITE SUPREMACISM

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Re: FOX NEWS is the MEDIA OUTLET FOR WHITE SUPREMACISM

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subgenius wrote:
1. I didn't come across any "conclusions", KG (as usual) presuppositions and inflammatory rhetoric....and of course the usual lie...this lie being "the hour" spent with the manifesto (which resulted only him being able to copy/paste from other googled articles)


God you're dumb. I spent a couple hours not just reading the manifesto but parsing out sections I felt were supported by FOX News rhetoric. I then had to spend most of the time googling examples from FOX commentators, and I was proved correct. It was a theory I had and ran with it. You want to imply that I didn't do any of that work at all and just plagiarized it, well feel free to produce the site I supposedly plagiarized it from. The only link you provide was already provided in my post when I sourced it you damned idiot.

subgenius wrote:2. Plagiarism is simply putting someone's work forward as your own, which his post sets out in plain language...which is par for the course with the resident liar doxxer.


Everything was sourced idiot.
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mikwut wrote:Hi Kevin,

“The white supremacists are American citizens. The illegal immigrants are people who shouldn't be here” - Mark Steyn on Fox News' "Tucker Carlson Tonight" January 18, 2018.


I'll have more time today but this was the first clip I could find. Mark Steyn and Tucker Carlson are discussing a CNN clip of Chris Cuomo. Illegal immigration was the relevant discussion and Cuomo was defending against the idea that illegal immigrants are often illustrated as monsters by one side, but Cuomo seemingly brought white supremacy up out of no where saying it is the real problem. Steyn's quote wasn't defending white supremacists but pointing out that isn't relevant to the discussion. Cuomo had said they are the real monsters not illegal immigrants, Steyn even said that might be well and true but isn't relevant. They then discussed the cultural changes occurring in Sweden and compared that possibility to what is happening in Arizona and that is where you plucked Tucker's quote from. I don't buy this. It is perfectly reasonable for American citizens to fear great cultural change and to debate those fears openly and freely without the debate ending tactic of calling them white supremacists.

Why don't you address the real issues of is there negative consequences for our own school children citizenry when too many (of which we would need to define) immigrant children fill classrooms, both economically and educationally on our own citizens. That was the other point they both were making that our leaders should love, care and show most concern for their own citizens first.

And Chris Cuomo shouldn't get a pass either. If he is rightfully criticize the demonizing of illegal immigrants he should presented the whole complex issues that many are innocents looking for a better life, many are not. I don't know why a radical position has to be insisted on by both sides except for ratings and division.

mikwut


Are you serious? You skipped down and dodged other quotations because you couldn't find them? But then decided to go for the lowest hanging fruit? That quotation isn't even relevant to the remark by the shooter and it was cut and pasted from my notepad by accident, so why are you even talking about it? You asked for evidence that FOX News had said anything to inspire the shooter, and I provided numerous examples of irrefutable evidence and then you go after this one which really has nothing to do with anything the shooter said.

Maybe the more obvious, most impressive example was this:

"Continued immigration will make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. " - Patrick Wood Crusius

This is a very curious argument that touches on two issues, illegal immigration + automation = America suffers. Gee, wonder where he could have gotten this from:

"America continues to welcome millions of low- skilled workers. What does that mean for American workers in the age of automation? Jobs are going away. What is everyone going to do in 20 years? " - Tucker Carlson

You're serious about not knowing how to find sources using Google?

Here it is:

https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tuck ... van-threat

Here is another obvious parallel:

"I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country from destruction... Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup which will hasten the destruction of our country."- Patrick Wood Crusius

"The America we know and love doesn't exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don't like ... this is related to both illegal and legal immigration" - Laura Ingraham

“THE AMERICA WE KNOW DOESN’T EXIST ANYMORE”: FOX’S DOG WHISTLE BECOMES AN AIR HORN
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Well according to Joe Biden the constitution is a white supremacist document. Pretty much everything is white supremacist to some people.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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If Trump's rhetoric is the reason for this mass shooting, why not defeat Trump in an election rather than seek to overturn the 2nd Amendment? I guess both Trump and the Constitution are white supremacist things to Democrats.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:Well according to Joe Biden the constitution is a white supremacist document. Pretty much everything is white supremacist to some people.


I missed where he said that. Do you have a link?
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ajax18 wrote:Well according to Joe Biden the constitution is a white supremacist document. Pretty much everything is white supremacist to some people.


Well it was written by slave owners, dumbass. According to Ajax and like-minded racists, racism doesn't even exist. If owning slaves doesn't amount to white supremacism, nothing else will.
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I suppose this was potentially brought up elsewhere or has its own thread, and I apologize for not looking too closely. It seemed to fit here.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... acy-theory

Tucker Carlson is claiming that calling claims of a rise in white nationalism and associated hate speech/violence is on par with what he considers to be another liberal "hoax" intended to take down President Trump: The Russia Investigation.

Turns out it isn't the first time, either.

https://www.salon.com/2019/04/11/fox-ne ... te-people/

Phew. I think I'm done with people.
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Carlson and Hannity are racing each other to the bottom or the swamp.
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The thing that really bothers me about it is that he mixes in this crap with things that are probably true to how people feel. The average person isn't likely to put Russia or Nazis high on their list of concerns. But it's such an insane thing to say and a screwed up statement it's just...good Jesus.

For example -

"If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns, of problems this country faces, where would white supremacy be on the list? Right up there with Russia, probably," Carlson said. "It's actually not a real problem in America. The combined membership of every white supremacist organization in this country, would they be able to fit inside a college football stadium?"

"This is a country where the average person is getting poorer, where the suicide rate is spiking. 'White supremacy, that’s the problem,'" Carlson said mockingly. "This is a hoax just like the Russia hoax. It’s a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power."


It's this kind of spin that makes our current politics such a crap show. It's dangerous, fueling serious problems by selling it as a binary either-or, and taking advantage of people's intuitions of what is affecting them in a way that seems like it's steering us off a cliff. And he has the audacity to even point out the problem of divisive media content driving a wedge in our politics for the very reasons his statement is so atrocious.

God, I hate Fox News.
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Goya wrote:
I missed where he said that. Do you have a link?

Goya
I do not intend to be critical but what is and from whom is your picture. I do not recognize it as Goya, perhaps maybe Courbet but I don't really think so. It does have a bit of 19th century realist style to it. Every time I see it I find myself thinking , Portrait of the Strangled Woman. ?
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