There's data out there that shows young American males are much more likely to die due to guns than just about any other demographic. subbie's chart, wherever it comes from, is misleading. It focuses on death by homicides which young black males are much more likely to die from than females of any race, and Americans of most age demographics over 30 years old.
What it doesn't include is the fact if you are a young white male, you're just about as likely to die due to a gun as well. It just much more likely to be one you were holding.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Catastrophic is probably a word you're choosing to use just because you're dumb.
2. Minorities are targeted by a corrupt police force
In many places in the country this is certainly true, and it has been proven. Of course, we expect you to do what racists do, and downplay or deny that they happen. Hence, your dumb remark.
3. The US runs concentration camps
By definition what the Trump administration has been doing is running concentration camps. That's because not everyone is so stupid as to think a concentration camp can't really be a concentration camp unless Jews are involved.
4. elected religious zealots want to usurp civil and human rights
Duh.
5. Trump is literally a nazi.
If he were literally a Nazi he never would have given his daughter to a Jew. He's just a typical old white American and a product of Bill O'Reilly's "Culture War" books.
6. That citizens having less and more restricted access to guns is the best response to items 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
No, obviously we need to follow your logic and the logic of the NRA. We need to cut down on video games, despite proof they have nothing to do with mass shootings and we need to treat mental illness as a national threat, creating yet another class of victims. Because science and facts don't matter on the Right. All that matters is blaming anything but guns and access to guns.
Goya wrote:Go back and look at your graph again. You can't or won't explain where the numbers come from nor how they fit into the discussion. You don't even have a source. Are you serious?
serious?
yes, i am serious as you guys are with your logic that where you emphatically believe:
1. White supremacy is on a catastrophic rise 2. Minorities are targeted by a corrupt police force 3. The US runs concentration camps 4. elected religious zealots want to usurp civil and human rights 5. Trump is literally a nazi. 6. That citizens having less and more restricted access to guns is the best response to items 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
So, none of the junk above is really part of this thread, and you’re stuck trying to fabricate a reason for posting that graph to cover for why you actually did it (itself being the result of your inability to comprehend a particular post or to respond honestly to it). ; )
You like to go all in on the dishonesty when you’re trapped. It’s actually a little funny to watch, but as I’ve mentioned previously, seeing you do this so often makes me feel sorry for your children.
moksha wrote:Don't think Doc Cam was talking about a rigorous gun confiscation program. That would be unworkable.
You're spot on. I'm talking about accepting what we are as human beings, no matter our nature, our circumstances, the reality in which we find ourselves is we're still passionate and oft times aggressive with one another. If we accept the principle of pragmatism then we can assess ourselves realistically. There is no reason on earth we couldn't regulate firearms like we regulate cars.
A well regulated militia. The right training. The right rules. The right accountability. The right to bear arms ought to be well regulated.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Goya wrote:So does that mean you'll explain and source your graph?
To what end? the meaning of graph is blatantly obvious in this context and either you agree or disagree, you feiging confusion is disingenuous and speaks only to the fact that you are predisposed on the matter, and to that end no source or "explanation" will serve any purpose other than to satisfy your desire deconstruct a contrary position in hopes that a juicy center will justify your inadequate reasoning on this matter. But thanks for the offer.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
yep, none of you cared about shootings until it was white people like you.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
We've been talking about gun control for years. Perhaps a good portion of the electorate are finally running out of patience.
- Doc
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Goya wrote:So does that mean you'll explain and source your graph?
To what end? the meaning of graph is blatantly obvious in this context and either you agree or disagree, you feiging confusion is disingenuous and speaks only to the fact that you are predisposed on the matter, and to that end no source or "explanation" will serve any purpose other than to satisfy your desire deconstruct a contrary position in hopes that a juicy center will justify your inadequate reasoning on this matter. But thanks for the offer.
Ha! All this to say that you don't dare explain your graph and are afraid to give your source. Next time maybe you should just post a photo of puppies.
Goya wrote:Ha! All this to say that you don't dare explain your graph and are afraid to give your source. Next time maybe you should just post a photo of puppies.
I've seen him ghost a thread time and time again when he is CFRd but this one probably takes the cake. The sheer shamelessness of it is almost impressive.
"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation." -Xenophon of Athens