But despite that, you are convinced that the unarmed black man is likely to have chosen to pick a fight with a group like that? What motivation could he possibly have had? Suicide by redneck and pit bull?
I don't know. If it were me, I probably would have ran rather than fight the pit bull, especially if I were unarmed. Why do you think he stayed and tried to fight?
Damn you're stupid. No human is going to outrun a dog, especially one that has been instructed by his owner to "sic'em". His best chance to defend himself was by squaring off with the dog, but with 300lb Bubba punching and the Fiddle playing kid from Deliverance poking him with a broom handle and his inbred brother kicking him in the gut, fighting off a Pit Bull with his bare hands became quite the chore.
I'm still waiting for you and Subs to explain why context is needed before we can denounce this as wrong and cowardly. What kind if context could justify this behavior by your cousins?
Now it turns out Bubba is saying the dog was released because the black Male had a knife? That's a lie obviously, the dog was released almost immediately after the first swing and no stab or puncture wounds except from the dogs teeth. The Walton family never would have gotten that close if they really believed he had a knife.
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But despite that, you are convinced that the unarmed black man is likely to have chosen to pick a fight with a group like that? What motivation could he possibly have had? Suicide by redneck and pit bull?
I don't know. If it were me, I probably would have ran rather than fight the pit bull, especially if I were unarmed. Why do you think he stayed and tried to fight?
I don't think the white people and their dog gave him much choice in the matter.
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I don't think the white people and their dog gave him much choice in the matter.
Do you mean he couldn't run away? He had to turn and try to fight the dog? Did we watch the same video? Did he have a choice to go to the house and seek out the confrontation?
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I don't think the white people and their dog gave him much choice in the matter.
Do you mean he couldn't run away? He had to turn and try to fight the dog?...
Umm ... if a pit bull sinks his teeth into your gluteus maximus, it is pretty damn hard to run away. All you can do is try to make it detach itself, a.k.a. 'fight the dog'.
Or you can stagger along the sidewalk while it chews your ass off. Not much of a choice, is it?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I don't think the white people and their dog gave him much choice in the matter.
Do you mean he couldn't run away? He had to turn and try to fight the dog? Did we watch the same video? Did he have a choice to go to the house and seek out the confrontation?
Probably not much of a choice, ajax. My understanding is that pit bulls can lock their jaw when they get a hold of your body and that's one reason it's so hard to thwart an attack by this particular breed of dog.
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I started to watch the video in the OP yesterday but quite frankly there are all kinds of things I can make myself watch and view, but I couldn't finish watching this. The intense aggression was too much for even a Jersey Girl to stomach. I can view autopsy and crime scene photos from a murder case easier than I could view that.
This happened in Michigan?
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Jersey Girl wrote:I started to watch the video in the OP yesterday but quite frankly there are all kinds of things I can make myself watch and view, but I couldn't finish watching this. The intense aggression was too much for even a Jersey Girl to stomach. I can view autopsy and crime scene photos from a murder case easier than I could view that.
This happened in Michigan?
I've photographed over a hundred autopsies. They don't bother me at all, but the results of intentional violence make me a little queasy. It's something I just don't want to see. I'll pass on the video.
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Quasimodo wrote:I've photographed over a hundred autopsies. They don't bother me at all, but the results of intentional violence make me a little queasy. It's something I just don't want to see. I'll pass on the video.
I'm right here with you, Quasi. I couldn't finish watching the video. I can't handle vicious behavior. In this case, the humans were more vicious than the Pit Bull dog that was unleashed.
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Jersey Girl wrote:My understanding is that pit bulls can lock their jaw when they get a hold of your body and that's one reason it's so hard to thwart an attack by this particular breed of dog.
Hi Jersey,
They don’t have the ability to lock their jaws, but they do tend to have strong jaw and neck muscles for their size; and, most importantly, tenacity.
It’s the combination of their musculature and their persistence that has brought about the myth of locking jaw. Where other dogs might release their hold to see if they can get a better grip, or to reassess a situation, pitties tend to grab hold and not let go.
That being said, and knowing it's hard to really know how I'd personally react (especially since adrenaline and testosterone make most situations wildcards), I don't know that I would have run away in that situation either.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
I love how intentionally obtuse Chap is being. Let's forget a moment about socioeconomics, Trump, racism, the play-by-play of their black neighbors, the love drama that kicked off multiple fights, the 20-year-old showing up for whatever reason, a 37-year-old man fighting teens and a young adult, shirts vs. skins, and watch the :51 video.
:50 - We see blackguy had walked past the dogman and his pitbull. We see beerbelly approach blackguy shouting something at him while hiking up his jorts. We see a few other whites in the vicinity bearing down on blackguy. Blackguy right now has an unimpeded pathway down the sidewalk and an open street. Nobody is stopping him.
:49 to :47 - Blackguy decides to stop and engage them. He pounds his chest, hikes up his pants, and squares up to beerbelly. Blackcommentaryguy says something about these whiteboys. Beerbelly says something something 'nigga'.
:46 to :35 - Lots of posturing. Blackguy still has an open pathway to freedom. Beerbelly throws his arms wide. Blackguy is still squaring up. Lots of unintelligible chatter. Blackcommentaryguy mutters something, entranced by the spectacle.
:34 to :32 - Beerbelly impotently swings at Blackguy. Blackguy deftly avoids the punch, but stickboy is there for the quick jab. Dogman closes the gap, intent on releasing his pit on blackguy. THERE IS NO KNIFE. Dogman unleashes his pit.
:31 to :26 - Blackcommentaryguy was like, "Aw, c'mon, you do that. AAAAWW." Blackcommentarywoman was like, "AW MAH GAWD." Whether they had already called the police or intended to call them is unclear. Blackguy is attempting to untangle himself from the dog and falls to the curb. Anotherblackcommentaryguy says, "Cha serious, dawg?!" Blackcommentarywoman was like, "AW SHIIIT." Whites close in on blackguy.
:25 to :00 - Blackcommentarywoman say something about someone perhaps should call the police. Blackguy his being bit by the pit, he's hitting the pit, falls to the ground, white people set upon him with kicks and stickboy jabs him repeatedly. Blackcommentary guys is like, "AAAAAAUGH." Lots of jabs, garbage containers being used WWE style, more "AW craps" from blackcommentary woman and concludes to do something because she exits the house and makes her way toward the white people. Filming stops.
If those white people are Trumpian racists looking to attack a black man because of their sheer vitriolic hatred, that lady was really putting herself in mortal danger, no?
Anyway. Blackguy could've exited the area safely. He chose to square up which was a bad move. White people were obviously in the wrong, especially stickboy and dogman. The dog did nothing wrong.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.