Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

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Re: Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

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Midgley wrote:Do you post on Dan's blog merely to mock and sneer at Latter-day Saint...

Midgley asks the above. In what context, you might ask? Someone asked him why he posted this about gemli:
Midgley wrote:The one who calls himself gemli has not mastered any science, but he worships science in general, which is widely know as scientism. His assertions are very often clearly historical. However, since history is not a science, he just makes up history with bald assertions. He also seems to have no interest in traveling. Except when a terrible storm forced him to leave his hometown he seems to have ended up in one or more neighboring states. I feel sorry for poor gemli, and so should you.

:rolleyes: I can only imagine the eye-rolling. Who on earth imagines that people don't travel? Everyone travels. Gemli and his friends I'm sure are getting quite a chuckle out of these hicks bragging about their 'trips,' as, for some reason, Midgley seems to think only Mormons go places. Unbelievable.


Oh well, not my church anymore. As I've said before, gemli's NYT readership here on the East Coast is getting an eyeful of how those Utah Mormons behave. I could imagine that they might chalk it up to a one-off bad-mannered old crank, except that Peterson lets Midgley's execrable bad manners go without comment while slapping down any hint of mannerlessness from those who disagree with his Mormon position. More and more, Midgley's bad manners are typifying the perception of Mormons made by anyone reading SeN. Luckily that's not too many, although I'm sure gemli's readers always boost page views when he comments.
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Oh, boy. This is NOT good for the CoJCoLDS (the J is silent):

Gemli, who asked that his real name not be used, is by some analytical measures the most popular commenter on The Times’s site.

He averages 354 reader recommendations per comment. There has to be some trick to this, right?

“The first sentence of the comment is key, and it’s usually the hardest to write,” Gemli said. “I can spend a half-hour writing and rewriting the first line.”

“Reading conservative pundits usually gets my goat, especially when they’re denying climate change, or recommending the continuation of economic inequality,” he said. “When they inject theology into public policy I have been known to write a mildly-worded rebuttal or two, after my left eye stops twitching and I regain my composure.”

Education occurs when you’re exposed to the world, and shielding yourself from it means that you’re not receiving an education. If there are things that you find too sensitive to bear, then you shouldn’t attend that meeting or take that course. Stay at home, in your room, with the windows shut and the TV off.

– Gemli


Mr. Peterson is doing the East Coast a great service by giving one of the NYT's most venerable and cherished contributors a platform to essentially expose the effects Mormonism has on a believer's brain. Lolcow, indeed.

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Looks like Midgley is absent from the latest Religious liberty political thread. Kiwi is on double duty. Billy Shears has made some excellent points, showing that the religious right wishes to expand their freedoms specifically in ways that allows them to break laws. One of Billy's comments got six up-votes, laying waste to the props the apologists are getting, and judging by the names of his supporters, at least two of those six hold doctorate degrees. That's really impressive. Perhaps Midgley is missing in action because he can't handle going toe-to-toe with so many bona fide academics?
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Gadianton wrote:Perhaps Midgley is missing in action because he can't handle going toe-to-toe with so many bona fide academics?

He could have made a Driving Miss Daisey road trip along with with the Rappleyes to the Bluffdale, Utah data storage and analysis facility of the NSA to see if any fellow Saints could help him get the lowdown on Gemli.
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Louis Midgley > Unconvinced • 4 hours ago

Uncon: "regardless how much followers want to deify them."

lcm: Uncom seeks to demonize Latter-day Saints! Why? If we knew his real name, this would be obvious.

Aside from the weird self third person reference, oh look! Midgley has a new target he's trying to doxx, Patheos Terms of Service be damned. Maybe he was told to lay off gemli, but didn't quite get the point of what he was doing wrong.
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Lemmie wrote:
Louis Midgley > Unconvinced • 4 hours ago

Uncon: "regardless how much followers want to deify them."

lcm: Uncom seeks to demonize Latter-day Saints! Why? If we knew his real name, this would be obvious.

Aside from the weird self third person reference, oh look! Midgley has a new target he's trying to doxx, Patheos Terms of Service be damned. Maybe he was told to lay off gemli, but didn't quite get the point of what he was doing wrong.

High entertainment from the Second Anointed Clown of apologetics! I pray Midgley live another 20 years, and in good enough health to continue to entertain us for Jesus sake. Jesus wants me for a Midgley, to glower for him each day. In every way try to piss on him, at home at work at play!
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Louis Midgley >
I must add that I just looked up "doxing." I do not engage in doxing.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4568196961

:rolleyes: Right. Let me just re-post a couple of items that show otherwise:
Lemmie wrote:SGDN is a commenter at SeN. Midgley doesn't like him.

Louis Midgley • a day ago

I would do some fact checking on SGDN, if such a person really existed. I mean, if he were not a hood hiding behind a silly handle...

https://disqus.com/by/disqus_aerWbsvSe6/

Another creepy quote from the earlier thread:

Louise Midgley wrote:Now please notice how easy it is to find out a great deal about Brooks, and then contrast this with the fact--I did some checking--that SGDN has no profile on Patheos. All one gets is "Deal with it."

Midgley is a sick creep.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 4#p1184084

Not to mention all the bits of data he collected on gemli that he then strings together in the most degrading way possible to try to insult him. Like this admission:
Midgley wrote:I take this typically "cute" gemli style response, which is his typical way of squirming out of tight corners into which he has managed to paint himself, as an admission that I am reasonably close to setting out the main outlines of how he managed to switch from being, as much as he understood those nice Nums, a dogmatic Roman Catholic, to "gradually" to being, well dogmatic gemli--a pious atheist in his own deeply religious way.

In addition, since ended up being employed at that small Catholic university in New Orleans, he felt the powerful urge to opine, and also he had to do so as gemli, rather that under his own name.


https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4364249097

The above is nothing more than an admission that Midgley collects information about people with the express purpose of attempting to dox them.
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To;dr: DP uses moderator knowledge to publicly inform gemli he knows who he is, in real life.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4576027124

Earlier today, Louis with his usual obnoxiousness attacks gemli, to which gemli replies:

Louis Midgley: ....Oh I forgot, gemli does not believe in actually seeing places in this world. It is not exactly clear if it is his dogmatic atheism that has stunted his desire to see the world, or his indifference to what is actually out there is part of what made him a dogmatic atheist who babbles on about those thousands of religions and thousands of Gods, and so forth.

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gemli Louis Midgley
a day ago
You seem to have a penchant for filling in details of my life based on virtually no actual information. While this is practically a requirement for writing fantasy novels or being devoutly religious, it's not a particularly effective way to build an image of a real person.

Shades weighs in, which gemli seems to appreciate:

Dr. Shades >> gemli

Unlike poor Louis Midgley, who never attempts to fill in details of Gemli's life based on virtually no actual information.

——
gemli Dr. Shades

Amen.

Peterson also comments, to which gemli puts forward what reads a a mild request to stop the doxxing attempts:
DanielPeterson >> gemli

I'm surprised that gemli agrees with Shades on this point. But such harmony is quite touching, in its way.

——
gemli >> DanielPeterson

Lou is forever writing little biographical sketches of my life, in his charming third-person style, based on fragments of my personal data. He wants to know what I've studied, what I've published and where I live, as well as chastising me for not revealing my real name. I suppose I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

But then, unbelievably, Peterson, THE MODERATOR, REFERENCES WHAT HE SEES ON HIS MODERATOR ACCOUNT, and replies to gemli with what appears to be a thinly veiled threat to dox gemli himself!

DanielPeterson >> gemli

I actually once knew your real name. It was easy, a while ago, to deduce it from what I saw on my screen.

I may recall it still, but I'm not sure. And I don't much care.

Added postscript: I just checked. I do know your name.

:eek: WHAT. THE. HELL.
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Kiwi57:

And when an actual physician (which you claim to be) mocks someone by insinuating that they are mentally ill, that is called "unprofessional."

"Spiteful" might also fit the bill.

"From a charter member of Mr. Jonathan Neville’s 'M2C citation cartel' "


Sometimes the irony just writes itself. four fingerjake, who acknowledged he is a psychiatrist on SeN, has gone far beyond insinuation, telling multiple people they were mentally Ill and even mocking them repeatedly. But kiwi reserves his fury for one not on Peterson's favored list. Its good to know who he considers unprofessional, though. He considers his fellow mopologists unprofessional, but he's stuck supporting nonsense, hence the conflict.

Pathos.com is being steadily trashed on SeN.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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