Trump's Most Inhumane Act Yet?

[_ajax18]

include patients who came here legally on visitors' visas expressly for life-saving medical procedures not available in their home countries

Can they go to a western European country that offers superior healthcare to the US?

Gunnar how much have do you think you could personally contribute for a few of these folks to pay for treatment in their own countries where the healthcare is much better than in the US?

[_Gunnar]

include patients who came here legally on visitors' visas expressly for life-saving medical procedures not available in their home countries

Can they go to a western European country that offers superior healthcare to the US?

Undoubtedly Western European countries also help patients not of their country who need special medical help not obtainable in their own country. So what? How does that in any way diminish the inhumanity of the Trump administration policy change reported in my OP? Besides that, no one is saying that healthcare treatment in Western European countries is generally more advanced or effective than the best treatment available in the USA. Only more affordable and, in many cases, more widely available.

Gunnar how much have do you think you could personally contribute for a few of these folks to pay for treatment in their own countries where the healthcare is much better than in the US?

You want me to give you a dollar amount of how much I am willing to contribute to help these patients? Are you implying I would not be willing to do so if offered the opportunity? Besides that, if the specialized treatment they needed were available in their own countries, this would be a non issue and they would probably have gotten it there. In any case, I don't think it is right to deport them merely because they are sick or deny them life-saving treatment merely because they are immigrants, whether documented or not.

As if things were not already insane enough: Deportation Threatens Life Of Immigrant Who Helped FDA Research

Rachel Maddow reports on the circumstances of Isabel Bueso, who was asked to participate in a medical trial for her rare genetic disease. Her extraordinary life depends on continued medical treatments that would end abruptly if the Trump administration succeeds in deporting her.

Helping these patients not only is the humane and commendable thing to do, they, in some case, help advancement of medical knowledge and treatment, which can potentially help all people, U.S. legal residents and citizens or not.

[_ajax18]

You want me to give you a dollar amount of how much I am willing to contribute to help these patients? Are you implying I would not be willing to do so if offered the opportunity?

Well how much did you contribute?

[_Gunnar]

You want me to give you a dollar amount of how much I am willing to contribute to help these patients? Are you implying I would not be willing to do so if offered the opportunity?

Well how much did you contribute?

You're merely trying to deflect from the point of the op that this policy is unconscionable and deliberately cruel, and that you are a heartless and incorrigible bigot for being OK with it, like your idol, Trump.

[_DarkHelmet]

Trump ends life-saving "medical deferred action" program.

Rachel Maddow reports on the Trump administration's abrupt ending of the "medical deferred action" program that allows non-citizens to remain in the U.S. to continue receiving life-saving treatment. Families in this program are being given 33 days to leave the country, a death sentence in some cases.

Trump's being an a-hole again? Shocking.

[_ajax18]

You're merely trying to deflect from the point of the op that this policy is unconscionable and deliberately cruel, and that you are a heartless and incorrigible bigot for being OK with it, like your idol, Trump.

The point is that if it's such an extreme situation why aren't you doing anything about it yourself and how are you any better than anyone else who turns away a beggar?

Can you be as generous with your own money as you are with other peoples money?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I dunno, Ajax. You ever take out a mortgage? You refuse medicaid from clients?

- Doc

[_Gunnar]

Doc, I'm sure ajax would not refuse money from any source, any more than his idol Trump would. It is giving up any money for anything that does not directly benefit him that he is opposed to.

[Guest]

The point is that if it's such an extreme situation why aren't you doing anything about it yourself and how are you any better than anyone else who turns away a beggar?

What a heartless and insensitive remark!

Helping to spread the word about this cruel atrocity is one thing I am doing about it. If enough people hear about it and become sufficiently and justifiably outraged about it to succeed in stopping it, that will accomplish much more than any individual monetary contribution I could possibly make or have made. And you have no idea how much I contribute or don't contribute to help others worse off than myself. I have no obligation to divulge such personal information to you! It is none of your business!

[_ajax18]

Helping to spread the word about this cruel atrocity is one thing I am doing about it. If enough people hear about it and become sufficiently and justifiably outraged about it to succeed in stopping it, that will accomplish much more than any individual monetary contribution I could possibly make or have made.

I wonder if these crippled immigrants agree. I know plenty of people who would be outraged enough to raise their neighbor's taxes. But how many would be outraged enough to pay more taxes themselves? If there are any, what is stopping them from paying more now? How many would postpone their retirements?

When does the nation draw a line on handouts? Is $20 trillion in debt not enough?