Is Trump unraveling?

[_Jersey Girl]

As Dorian moved up the coast, I've been watching Wikipedia build it's page on it. Trump's map crap fiasco is in the wiki now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian

[_canpakes]

The other hand is covered in other threads. ...

Yes, Trump has kept this Dorian story alive by pure magic.

No, he had to waste official resources and time to call a press conference defending his mistake, crudely doctor official forecast graphics with markers and threaten actual forecasters to not contradict his snowflake butthurt ego.

But please, do tell...what is the other hand doing? That thread(s) appears to be absent...

You need others to tell you about threads and topics that you're too lazy to read yourself? Maybe you could post a screenshot of the Spirit Paradise thread topics page, and see if someone will mark it up with a Sharpie for you. ; )

[Jersey Girl]

From now on NOAA will be required to make this disclaimer: "No matter if the hurricane is of Category 5 velocity, it is not as large as President Trump's hand size."

[_Res Ipsa]

This begs the question of whether he was ever raveled to begin with.

[_moksha]

Trump does something horrible.

Subgenius: Brilliant. This distracts from all the other horrible things he's doing. Now you won't know about how horrible he is being.

Normal people: We're aware of those things too.

Subgenius. *covers ears* Brilliant.

Subgenius - Emperor Trump wears only the finest clothes. 80% of only the Republicans can see how resplendent he looks in them.

[_DarkHelmet]

Trump bullied the NOAA into lying for him:

NOAA staff warned in Sept. 1 directive against contradicting Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/noaa-staff-warned-in-sept-1-directive-against-contradicting-trump/ar-AAGXulF?ocid=spartanntp

Making scientists back up the stupid and unnecessary lies told by Trump is totally wrong. It was bad enough that Trump has subverted the DoJ and other govt agencies. Must he contaminate everything?

THe White House pressuring NOAA to back the president over its own scientists is the ugliest part of this story. I appreciate subbie pointing this out for us.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Trump does something horrible.

Subgenius: Brilliant. This distracts from all the other horrible things he's doing. Now you won't know about how horrible he is being.

Normal people: We're aware of those things too.

Subgenius. *covers ears* Brilliant.

I think subgenius gets sucked into the narrative his Conservative echo chambers like to create about Liberals or Progressives. A true and effective attempt to trigger progressive-minded people would be to rip children from their parents and stick them in cages, AND THEN revel in the audacity of the outrage-inducing actions.

What he's seeing and lapping up is the carefully crafted false, stereotyped, hyperbolized image of progressive-minded people, specifically designed to show conservative-minded people, for the purpose of insinuating that anyone progressive is primarily concerned with trivial issues like whether you have access to straws when sucking up a steak topped with a light bulb. Thanks Laura Ingraham for sticking it to the Libs!

It is a deliberate propaganda campaign aimed at delegitimizing and reducing your opponent to a caricature. You then mock the caricature instead of any substantial quality of the opponent, because punching the fake version of them that you made up is easier. The goal is not to be seen by Progressives and anger them. The goal is to be seen by Conservatives, so that they can continue ignoring criticism and protest against the actions of Republicans by buying into the delegitimizing propaganda that "these people only care about stupid crap, look how easy it is to rile them, see how trivial things make them angry!" Think of those Ben Garrison cartoons:



And that's a tame one compared to most of his imagery.

So, it's kind of like discussing Mormonism with Mormons. This is all they have left. They abandoned any pretense of having a serious talk years ago when their base made it clear that they don't want serious talks, they want punching. It's a circus and whether it's losing their crap over Obama or Hillary, or holding up a D-fence sign when it comes to Trump, the Conservative media is happy to deliver to their fans.

- Doc

[_canpakes]

The White House pressuring NOAA to back the president over its own scientists is the ugliest part of this story. I appreciate subbie pointing this out for us.

There has been some blowback on that, of course, from the rational folks who don’t see a need for Wilbur Ross’s Commerce Department politicizing the weather forecast to cover Presidential butthurt:

https://Twitter.com/pres_nwseo/status/1 ... 1388719105

Remember, when the President acts like an immature ass and then pressures Government agencies into becoming extensions of partisan hackery in creating a safe space for Trump’s special kind of snowflakiness, then this is ‘owning the libs’. ; )

[_Some Schmo]

Only a moron wouldn't see that the unsigned NOAA statement was an attempt to satisfy and shut the President the “F” up. A moron would actually use it as a defense of Trump's whiny complaints over his own obvious “F” up.

I know this because I see subs did just that.

[_canpakes]

Only a moron wouldn't see that the unsigned NOAA statement was an attempt to satisfy and shut the President the “F” up. A moron would actually use it as a defense of Trump's whiny complaints over his own obvious “F” up.

I know this because I see subs did just that.

NOAA director of public affairs, Julie Kay Roberts, worked on Trump’s Presidential campaign team.

Now, who couldn’t see that coming? ; )