Could this happen? Airing of grievances & simple apologies?

[_Lemmie]

“A hard time moderating” indeed. How hard is it for a moderator to eliminate words such as “sty” and “hate site”, when he has full control over all comments?

So every time somebody on Peterson's blog posts something about this site that is civil in tone, no matter how critical in content it may be, that's a win for Dr Moore's project as I understand it.

Agreed. So what message is Peterson sending about Dr Moore’s project by letting the blatant violations stand?

In the long run, however, that’s obviously DM’s concern alone. And in that vein, I would agree with Gadianton’s point that there is no reason to tie in the count and content of threads over here with DM’s agreement with DCP.

Pleas for civility notwithstanding, it really doesn’t hurt anyone here for posters at a blog such as SeN to violate DM’s agreement, given their reputations for egregiously attacking all non-lds. (Although gemli and others may wonder what is going on if attacks against them start to take up all the slack!)

[_Lemmie]

From Peterson’s blog, the comment section:

Sledge to Dr. Shades
5 hours ago

There is very little difference between your site and Stormfront. They even almost look the same.

In any case, you do hate Mormonism. You hate it with such a burning passion that, for two decades after returning from your mission, you have dedicated your very life to defaming, slandering, and execrating it online.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/danp ... 4626680267

[_Lemmie]

Also this:

Sledge to Dr. Shades
10 hours ago

That's what my wife says, too.

But hey, at least I don't run two hate sites!

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/danp ... 4626358426

[_Physics Guy]

Does Shades have a second site? What am I missing?

Otherwise, Dr. Shades doesn't actually post here all that much. He posts regularly but not obsessively and his posts are generally short. Unless he's really fanatical over on his second site that I haven't seen yet, he seems to be dedicating much less of his life to execrating the Mormon church than numerous apologists dedicate of their lives to defending that church. It's a pretty lackadaisical execration if you ask me.

"Lackadaisical execration" might be a good name for a craft beer.

[_Lemmie]

The comparison to Stormfront is inappropriate, to say the least. No comments have been moderated yet, so sadly, it will probably be allowed to stay up.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Does Sledge fall within or outside of Dr. Moore’s ‘vector’?

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

Sledge still referring to dr. Shades’ board as a ‘hate site’:

Sledge >> Dr. Shades
3 hours ago

Are you serious? I obviously can't post links to hate sites on Patheos, but visit your own sites, dude.

Re whether Sledge is in a ‘vector,’ i don’t know. Is that now a part of Dr Moore’s agreement? I’m just going off of this:

Dr Moore:

Shall we agree that the $10k is in your hands to distribute to worthy causes on fulfillment of the following terms?

1. No derogatory mention of Dr. Shades board, or its members, through end of Feb. 2020. By yourself, and as host of this site, by your good faith effort to moderate such comments by others here.

While it seemed obvious that “a good faith effort to moderate such comments” would not necessarily prevent all “such comments” from being posted, I did interpret it as meaning an actual “moderation,” such as elimination of the negative words, like “hate site,” etc.

However, Peterson has not eliminated a single word or engaged in any visible moderation of any of the “hate site”-type comments that have appeared since the beginning of the agreement, whether Midgley, kiwis, or anyone else posted them, so who knows.

As was pointed out earlier, no justification is needed, so I’m not asking a question, just noting the posts.

ETA: Peterson clearly has the time, ability, and inclination to moderate:

DanielPeterson >> MoreMan 5 hours ago

....And, by the way, lose the childishly insulting tone. "Danny Boy"? Grow up.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/danp ... 4627173679

Just not when $10,000 are on the line, apparently.

[_Kishkumen]

I regret spending so much time on Mopologetics and for asking of others what they seem unable or unwilling to give. That said, all of these people we have been fighting with are human beings, and it is important to remember that. I like to think of their good points as often as I can because they definitely have their good points. The fencing about Mormonism as they envision it is not something I am all that concerned about. It is a game of a kind, both sides know it is a game, and although it does have real consequences, we are best off when we minimize them by keeping ourselves in check. We should always think of how we might do better by our opponents than they do by us. We may be wrong in imagining we have succeeded, but we will all be better off for trying.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I believe Mr. Peterson has the ability to mark posts as spam. I’ve noticed a few posts here and there go from readable to ‘marked as spam’ and essentially deleted from view. He is, in fact, reading everything and moderating tightly.

- Doc

[_Xenophon]

I believe Mr. Peterson has the ability to mark posts as spam. I’ve noticed a few posts here and there go from readable to ‘marked as spam’ and essentially deleted from view. He is, in fact, reading everything and moderating tightly.

- Doc

In fairness my understanding is that some of that is handled automatically through Disqus's flagging system, then the moderator has to go back and approve those comments manually. Not to say Peterson isn't moderating them, just that it isn't a given if you see "marked as spam".