Trump whistleblower complaint

[_Ceeboo]

I just got done reading it. Trump's fuuuuuucked
- Doc

No - The outcome of all of this is that the one who is literally ****** is Biden. His 2020 run is officially over. I recognize that you are not capable of seeing this.

I'm so ____ over subgenius, ajax, Markk, Ceeboo, and a couple others with their ____. They don't give two flying ____ about reality

The irony in this takes my breathe away.

And if you think your bullying - or your disgusting name calling - or your incivility - or your filthy mouth will silence American citizens who hold different opinions/views than you do, you are dead wrong.

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds

More unbelievable irony.

It's so frustrating. 8 years of reading their snowflake ____ complaining about birth certificates and dijon mustard

I have never once made a single post about birth certificates or Dijon mustard (More examples of the fantasy world in which you marinate in)

but the just can't *snap* muster up the courage to hold their own people accountable for endless insane immoral governance.

You mean like the countless times on this board that I have expressed my very negative personal views of DJT?

Perhaps it is you, in fact, who can not (and will not) find the courage to hold members of your particular party accountable for anything.

[_canpakes]

You mean like the countless times on this board that I have expressed my very negative personal views of DJT?

Ceeboo,

I hear you on that, but I’m wondering if there is any candidate on the Democratic side of the field that you would vote for instead of Trump, based on what you know about them at this moment?

I would honestly guess that you would not choose any of them over Trump, and my guess as to why is that you’d concentrate your reasoning on ‘religious freedom’ concerns or closely related categories.

This is not meant to be a negative or positive conclusion on my part; I’m just trying to place myself in your shoes and imagine how you’d lean based upon your commenting history.

Would my conclusion be unreasonable?

[_MeDotOrg]

The $64,000 question:

Is this it? Is there enough to convince two thirds of the Senate to vote for impeachment? I think there is already enough evidence to convict the President, and we have no idea what will come out in the next weeks as the hearings roll on.

One of the things that is becoming evident is that the White House knew that the blocking of Ukrainian aid, followed by the President's conversation of Zelensky, was something they wanted to remain hidden, so they transferred the records of the call onto a server that was supposedly only used for highly classified conversations. There were a lot of actions that indicate that the White House had knowledge of wrongdoing , because of the extraordinary efforts made to cover it up.

One area where I still find myself incredulous is when acting DNI Joseph Maguire says that he cannot tell the committee whether or not he spoke with the President concerning Ukraine, he says that Presidential communication is privileged. While the conversation itself is privileged, I don't see privilege being violated by simply knowing that a topic as nebulous as a country was discussed with the President.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey CP

You mean like the countless times on this board that I have expressed my very negative personal views of DJT?

Ceeboo,

I hear you on that, but I’m wondering if there is any candidate on the Democratic side of the field that you would vote for instead of Trump, based on what you know about them at this moment?

I need to give a longer version answer.

For the first time in my adult life I did not cast a vote in 2016 (I am not proud of that.) I am a Bible believing Christian (I make no apology for that - I am not ashamed of that - and I do not hide that on this board or in real life)

As it stands today - I believe the hard left is the voice of the DNC (The moderates have completely lost their voice) I also believe that Pelosi was forced/pressured into this play by the hard left. Pelosi's move has completely destroyed Biden's run - It's over (What I'm nor sure of is if Pelosi knew this before she made the move?) From my view, that's awful because I believe Biden was a formidable candidate, a moderate option - and a choice that would have given republicans an alternate from Trump in 2020.

So to answer your question, as it stands today, I find myself in a similar position to the one I was in back in 2016. I won't make any decisions at this point (a lot can change in the political landscape by 2020) but I may indeed be a no vote again (I would not be proud of that choice either)

I would honestly guess that you would not choose any of them over Trump, and my guess as to why is that you’d concentrate your reasoning on ‘religious freedom’ concerns or closely related categories.

When you say "over Trump", that gives the impression that I am a Trump voter - so I don't know how to answer this question. I can tell you that, as a Bible believing Christian, I believe every single human being on planet earth has been created in the image of God, by God - Each of them have infinite value and this makes me lean very heavily towards candidates/policies that help/support/encourage/tackle/address things equality, fighting racism, programs for the less fortunate, etc.

This is not meant to be a negative or positive conclusion on my part; I’m just trying to place myself in your shoes and imagine how you’d lean based upon your commenting history.

No worries - If I thought your above post was negative (or playing games) I wouldn't have answered it.

Would my conclusion be unreasonable?

I don't know how you would make conclusions - I will leave that up to you.

[_Jersey Girl]

You mean like the countless times on this board that I have expressed my very negative personal views of DJT?

Ceeboo,

I hear you on that, but I’m wondering if there is any candidate on the Democratic side of the field that you would vote for instead of Trump, based on what you know about them at this moment?

I would honestly guess that you would not choose any of them over Trump, and my guess as to why is that you’d concentrate your reasoning on ‘religious freedom’ concerns or closely related categories.

This is not meant to be a negative or positive conclusion on my part; I’m just trying to place myself in your shoes and imagine how you’d lean based upon your commenting history.

Would my conclusion be unreasonable?

He never voted for Trump in the first place.

[_Chap]

Maybe start another thread for Ceeboo and anybody else who would like to discuss such issues as how Ceeboo might vote in 2016?

Meanwhile, this thread would be more fruitfully devoted to discussing the topic of the OP: the much more urgent issue of the whistleblower's complaint, the main part of which I have posted in full here:

viewtopic.php?p=1198198#p1198198

That raises issues of huge national importance for the US as a whole, its two great political parties, and of course Trump himself - as was recognised by the White House staff who put extraordinary measures in place to render the record of that supposedly completely normal conversation inaccessible.

[_Jersey Girl]

Pelosi's move has completely destroyed Biden's run - It's over (What I'm nor sure of is if Pelosi knew this before she made the move?) From my view, that's awful because I believe Biden was a formidable candidate, a moderate option - and a choice that would have given republicans an alternate from Trump in 2020.

Why do you see Biden's run as being over? I want to know why you think that.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Good Lord - Politics are so disgustingly rancid!

I know, right?

We're inching toward nuclear holocaust because slightly less than half the country voted for your crazy, opinonated uncle who is way too into right-wing news.

Well, unlike Trump, at least you are just an anonymous bozo posting your nonsense on a discussion board.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Pelosi's move has completely destroyed Biden's run - It's over (What I'm nor sure of is if Pelosi knew this before she made the move?) From my view, that's awful because I believe Biden was a formidable candidate, a moderate option - and a choice that would have given republicans an alternate from Trump in 2020.

Why do you see Biden's run as being over? I want to know why you think that.

Yeah, I don't get that comment either.

- Doc

[_DarkHelmet]

Maybe start another thread for Ceeboo and anybody else who would like to discuss such issues as how Ceeboo might vote
.

We already know he is going to write in Dennis Prager in 2020, just like he did in 2016. Now back to the OP.