Trump whistleblower complaint

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The levels of Trump worship has reached such a climax that FOX News is beginning to turn on itself.

After Shepherd Smith hosted Judge Napolitano saying Trump definitely committed a crime, Tucker Carlson goes after him with a partisan hack named Joseph Digenova.

And today Chris Wallace says he is astonished at the levels of spin that has been going on by Trump supporters over the last 24 hrs.

I thought this was funny, too... Earlier, Christ Christie said it would be a big deal if Trump said "do me a favor." Hours later the transcript was released and those were precisely the words used. Wonder what Christie says now.
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Icarus wrote:The levels of Trump worship has reached such a climax that FOX News is beginning to turn on itself.

The problem for Fox has always been that facts are rarely on their side. In the age of Trump, you cannot defend the president honestly. It's simply not possible. Ignoring Trump's corruption is like ignoring fire burning. That's what fire does, and to say otherwise is to lie.
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President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Weird that Volker just resigned. Crazy. Totally unforeseen.

- Doc


Damn. I stop reading for a few minutes, and I'm already behind. :lol:

I think you might see a few people jump ship in the next few weeks.
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MeDotOrg wrote:I think you might see a few people jump ship in the next few weeks.

I sometimes wonder what the chances are that Trump, himself, might turn out to be one of them, perhaps hoping that Mike Pence, as the new president, will grant him a full pardon, as President Ford did for Nixon. Of course, Pence can't pardon him for the New York State laws for which he might wind up being indicted and convicted.
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Gunnar wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:I think you might see a few people jump ship in the next few weeks.

I sometimes wonder what the chances are that Trump, himself, might turn out to be one of them, perhaps hoping that Mike Pence, as the new president, will grant him a full pardon, as President Ford did for Nixon. Of course, Pence can't pardon him for the New York State laws for which he might wind up being indicted and convicted.


It's likely a coin toss but yes, I think that a lot of folks are gearing up to roll over on him (to save themselves) and he could easily take the jump. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he and Pence have the deal already worked out.

NY is another matter altogether.

I wonder how many of his former associates (including those fired/forced to resign) are going to come out and say "I told you so!"
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Icarus wrote:I thought this was funny, too... Earlier, Christ Christie said it would be a big deal if Trump said "do me a favor." Hours later the transcript was released and those were precisely the words used. Wonder what Christie says now.


He will just move the goal post. The new Republican talking point is there was no quid pro quo. Apparently there has to be a recording of Trump saying the exact phrase "let's do a quid pro quo", otherwise he did nothing wrong. When a tape surfaces with Trump saying those exact words, the talking points will change, but until then, that's the talking point.
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NEW: Trump told Russian officials in 2017 oval meeting that he wasn’t concerned about their 2016 election interference because the US does it as well. It prompted a lockdown of documents describing call.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... iveBrMjERi

Sounds bad.
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DarkHelmet wrote:
Icarus wrote:I thought this was funny, too... Earlier, Christ Christie said it would be a big deal if Trump said "do me a favor." Hours later the transcript was released and those were precisely the words used. Wonder what Christie says now.


He will just move the goal post. The new Republican talking point is there was no quid pro quo. Apparently there has to be a recording of Trump saying the exact phrase "let's do a quid pro quo", otherwise he did nothing wrong. When a tape surfaces with Trump saying those exact words, the talking points will change, but until then, that's the talking point.



One the one hand, Trump doesn't need to offer anything in return in order for his pressuring Ukraine to ratfuck Biden to be an impeachable offense. It's just an aggravating factor that he used military aid appropriated for them to apply the pressure. On the other, the call shows Trump offering a quid pro quo in the way real, live people talk. Makes it hard to decide which part of this asinine argument to engage first.
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Also, let's set aside for the moment that Trump is busted for telling the Russians not to worry about the meddling in the 2016 elections. <- Read the article at the Washington Post, and, Screw you MARKK.

According to White House officials I spoke with, this was “not the first time” under this Administration that a Presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive—rather than national security sensitive—information.


Think about this for a hot moment. The administration created a classification system to safeguard political information, and then they'd move that information to their own secure system.

HRRRRRRRMMMMM. Did they keep the server in a bathroom at Trump tower?

Anyway, CNN has reported conversations with Putin and the Saudi ruler were also 'classified and scrubbed'. In b4 some fuckwad idiot comes along with some sort of 4chan /pol/ BS turd quip:

Classification power does not exist to prevent the public from seeing politically damaging material. Even for Trump, this is a scandalous abuse of power. I want to see everything that was given this internal classification system, and moved to their own secure server.

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