US pulling out of North Syria

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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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EAllusion wrote:So, no links then?

He won’t be able to provide any of substance, as his talking points rely on a particular partisan and limited interpretation of the situation.

But, maybe he’ll man up and post a link to his favorite source.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
huckelberry wrote:He just creates the satisfaction of upsetting liberals.

You have to ask why that gives anyone satisfaction, though. What kind of a whiny little douche bag do you have to be to get satisfaction from upsetting liberals?

The unmovable Trump base is mostly unmovable because they are so dense.


It's troll behavior. They get the most satisfaction out of upsetting others. It's also called being an asshole. I think most people have at least little bit of asshole in them. It can be fun to piss off other people. But most people know it's not healthy behavior, especially if it's your default behavior. It's hard to build many relationships acting like that.
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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EAllusion wrote:So, no links then?

Oh, I did not gather that you were so unaware of the Obama foreign policy; my bad for assuming you were even partially attentive to US foreign policy from 2008 through 2016 (clearly you were not). But if by links, you meant some internet justification for Obama declining to become involved in Syria, while Syria underwent a long, multi-party civil war between the government of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian opposition, and ISIL - then oh...let me draw a red line for ya:

Try this
Or This

Or perhaps Josh Landis's opinion matters when he stated, “There is no way that the United States was going to solve the Syria Problem in any constructive way – and just keeping us out of it to the extent he [Obama] did was a boon.” So finally, Obama "intervenes" and in 2014 asked Congress for funds to train and equip approximately 15,000 rebels in Jordan. The program was colossal failure, and the administration was eventually forced to admit that only four or five of the recruits in the program returned to fight in Syria.

But yeah, it is Trump that is the only one to "leave them to invasion"...(see also where Obama wags his finger at Russia interference in Syria, contrary to the call from the 80s wanting its policy back).
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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DarkHelmet wrote:It's troll behavior. They get the most satisfaction out of upsetting others. It's also called being an asshole. I think most people have at least little bit of asshole in them. It can be fun to piss off other people. But most people know it's not healthy behavior, especially if it's your default behavior. It's hard to build many relationships acting like that.

yes, attacking the messenger is such an impressive retort..glad you are inspired as such. And you knowledge for the topic at hand is so impressive, the Kurds are lucky to have you on their side. (and the irony of you stopping by to flame-post under the guise of "troll shaming" is not lost...hilarious, but not lost...literally its only your 2nd post on this thread, both of which have no contribution or relevance to a topic, let alone the OP....but you go girl!)
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:So, no links then?

Oh, I did not gather that you were so unaware of the Obama foreign policy; my bad for assuming you were even partially attentive to US foreign policy from 2008 through 2016 (clearly you were not). But if by links, you meant some internet justification for Obama declining to become involved in Syria, while Syria underwent a long, multi-party civil war between the government of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian opposition, and ISIL - then oh...let me draw a red line for ya:

Try this
Or This

Or perhaps Josh Landis's opinion matters when he stated, “There is no way that the United States was going to solve the Syria Problem in any constructive way – and just keeping us out of it to the extent he [Obama] did was a boon.” So finally, Obama "intervenes" and in 2014 asked Congress for funds to train and equip approximately 15,000 rebels in Jordan. The program was colossal failure, and the administration was eventually forced to admit that only four or five of the recruits in the program returned to fight in Syria.

But yeah, it is Trump that is the only one to "leave them to invasion"...(see also where Obama wags his finger at Russia interference in Syria, contrary to the call from the 80s wanting its policy back).

So no links it is. Just false equivalence created by cutting off part of a quote that is one post above and available for everyone to read.
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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subgenius wrote:Try this
Or This

subs, the link (and really there’s only one) does not back up your claim of “Trump's policy with Syria is aligning with Obama's former policy”.

Nice distraction, but it doesn’t correct your erroneous claim.
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DarkHelmet wrote:It's troll behavior. They get the most satisfaction out of upsetting others. It's also called being an asshole. I think most people have at least little bit of asshole in them. It can be fun to piss off other people. But most people know it's not healthy behavior, especially if it's your default behavior. It's hard to build many relationships acting like that.

Hmph.

I can understand being critical of someone/something with the hopes that they'll take it to heart and do something about it, or to express the associated emotion. I do that all the time (usually just to express emotion - I don't have any hope my words will change anyone).

If your aim is just to rile people, yeah, I agree. Asshole behavior.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:If your aim is just to rile people, yeah, I agree. Asshole behavior.

I suspect that far fewer folks out there are ‘riled’ so much as bemused, as they watch throngs of conservatives tossing their integrity while morphing into their own special form of bitter and angry snowflake.
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canpakes wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:If your aim is just to rile people, yeah, I agree. Asshole behavior.

I suspect that far fewer folks out there are ‘riled’ so much as bemused, as they watch throngs of conservatives tossing their integrity while morphing into their own special form of bitter and angry snowflake.

I'm a little astonished at how, hrm, 'disregardful' the Right is of our federal government and its checks and balances. I'm also surprised at how quickly the Executive branch can assume a dictatorial relationship with the Legislative branch through the latter's own capitulation. I guess the lesson from this administration I've taken is how utterly powerless our government is at correcting itself once those in power decide to do whatever they want. We literally have folks on the Right posting here alluding to electing an autocrat into power is fine because *reasons*, or having a separatist movement is fine because *reasons*, or are so incapable of thinking they (subgenius) are stuck in spates of shitposting because that's literally the upper limit of their cognitive skills. THAT'S damned scary, and THAT'S how republics crumble. Not that they care. I think they're hoping for another thorough watering of our Tree of Liberty.

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Why are current GOP supporters so sycophantly and blindly supportive of actions committed by conservative Republicans about which they would scream bloody murder if committed by Democrats or liberals?
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