Removing Trump will Doom GOP for decades

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Seems like Clinton gained in popularity throughout that one. Why the Republicans pushed that is beyond me.

I hear you on that. It's like they ignored their own inner voice. Select Democrats had enjoyed receiving head from their female Congressional pages and select Republicans had enjoyed giving head to their male Congressional pages for quite some time. To look askew at President Clinton for getting head from an aid was, well you know.

When did the penguin hit this level of risqué?

[_Some Schmo]

I actually think it goes back a bit further, to Newt Gingrich.

Yeah, someone turned him into a newt, and he never got better.

The GOP is now the party of assholes. We know they're assholes, because all that ever comes out of them is crap.

[_Gunnar]

I actually think it goes back a bit further, to Newt Gingrich.

Yeah, someone turned him into a newt, and he never got better.

Classic! I wish I had thought of that one!

Anyone who didn't get that has never seen the farcical movie, Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

[_Brackite]

The economy was "going" before Trump became president. There were more jobs created during Obama’s last 30 months than during Trump’s first 30 months.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000 ... w=net_1mth

Ok, I just don't have the energy right now to do this myself. Does this say anything about the wages of these jobs that were created? I suspect there were a lot of low wage jobs created while we continue to lose higher wage jobs.

While the Unemployment rate is down to a 50-year low, wages are still not that great.

Also, the jobless rate for Hispanics also hit a new record low, while the level for African Americans maintained its lowest ever.

At the same time, the economy saw another sluggish month of growth. The nonfarm payrolls count missed the 145,000 estimate from economists surveyed by Dow Jones; the expectation on the jobless rate was to hold steady at 3.7%.

Wages also were a disappointment, with average hourly earnings little changed over the month and up just 2.9% for the year, the lowest increase since July 2018.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/jobs-re ... -2019.html

These claims help drive the interpretation of breaking economic news. For example, the Labor Department yesterday reported that the unemployment rate fell to a 50-year low, while wage growth stalled. “The wage numbers here are INSANE,” the MSNBC host Chris Hayes tweeted. “The tightest labor market in decades and decades and ordinary working people are barely seeing gains.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... my/599491/

[_Chap]

For example, the Labor Department yesterday reported that the unemployment rate fell to a 50-year low, while wage growth stalled. “The wage numbers here are INSANE,” the MSNBC host Chris Hayes tweeted. “The tightest labor market in decades and decades and ordinary working people are barely seeing gains.”

Hmm. That is strange, certainly.

I wonder if it would help raise wages if working people in a particular kind of job joined together in some kind of association where they all agreed they would not work for an employer who did not pay them a wage level that they were happy with? Wouldn't that force employers to pay better wages in a tight labor market?

Has anything like that ever existed, do you think?

Oh, wait ....

[_ajax18]

Hmm. That is strange, certainly.

I wonder if it would help raise wages if working people in a particular kind of job joined together in some kind of association where they all agreed they would not work for an employer who did not pay them a wage level that they were happy with? Wouldn't that force employers to pay better wages in a tight labor market?

Has anything like that ever existed, do you think?

Oh, wait ....

Globalization has killed unions, not Republicans. There's always someone willing to work for less. Indeed Brackite believes we need illegal immigrants to keep our lettuce affordable.

What if we resticted employers from hiring noncitizens and paying them under the table? Then maybe employers would be forced to pay a living wage? No can do, that's considered racist and immoral.

[_honorentheos]

What if we resticted employers from hiring noncitizens and paying them under the table? Then maybe employers would be forced to pay a living wage? No can do, that's considered racist and immoral.

It's anti-capitalist and free markets, really.

[_Chap]

For example, the Labor Department yesterday reported that the unemployment rate fell to a 50-year low, while wage growth stalled. “The wage numbers here are INSANE,” the MSNBC host Chris Hayes tweeted. “The tightest labor market in decades and decades and ordinary working people are barely seeing gains.”

Hmm. That is strange, certainly.

I wonder if it would help raise wages if working people in a particular kind of job joined together in some kind of association where they all agreed they would not work for an employer who did not pay them a wage level that they were happy with? Wouldn't that force employers to pay better wages in a tight labor market?

Has anything like that ever existed, do you think?

Oh, wait ....

Globalization has killed unions, not Republicans. There's always someone willing to work for less. Indeed Brackite believes we need illegal immigrants to keep our lettuce affordable.

Ajax18 has one solution for everything: it's the illegal immigrants. Now, if we were talking about the wage rates for lettuce-pickers or floor-scrubbers, he might have at least the beginnings of a point. But the key is this:

“The tightest labor market in decades and decades and ordinary working people are barely seeing gains.”

We are talking about the whole range of paid employment here, including relatively skilled occupations in areas of work where illegal immigrants have virtually no impact. In those industries such things as 'right-to-work' laws have ensured that if the employer can find 'someone willing to work for less', the existing workers can do nothing whatsoever to make the employer pay the new arrival the same rates that they are getting - which was one of the keys to the long-lost prosperity of blue-collar Americans.

Hmm, organised labor has lost most of its power, the share of the national wealth owned by extremely rich people is rising steadily, while the share owned by wage earners is diminishing, and wages are stagnant even in a time of a tight labor market due to low unemployment. But there's clearly no connection there, and all the problems are due to illegal immigration, not to a sustained and successful effort to break the economic power of organised blue-collar Americans on the false promise that doing that would make everybody better off ...

[_canpakes]

ajax, you’re not reading this thread while shopping at a Wal-Mart, are you? ‘Cuz that’d be awesome.

[_moksha]

The only way Donald Trump can be removed from office is if 20 Republican quislings in the U.S Senate vote to remove him — and if this happens, it would be the end of the Republican Party for decades.

If one dint of honesty entered this rarified ecosystem then a chain reaction might take place and results could be devastating. Much like entering color into the sepia-toned world of Pleasantville, Republicans would be forced to cope with the concept of honesty. Could they survive or would they take to prescription narcotics?