Why the English dislike Trump.

[_aussieguy55]

Bryan-Paul McCarthy
Yesterday at 8:43 AM
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of crap. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

'My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."

Thanks Occupy Democrats

[_Chap]

We've had this post from the same poster already, haven't we? Why put it out again?

Let me break it to aussieguy: there are plenty of 'English' (he means British?) people without any charm, coolness, credibility, compassion, wit, warmth, wisdom, subtlety, sensitivity, self-awareness, humility, honour or grace. And people like that actually admire Trump, and his mini-me Johnson.

Maybe even some Australians too?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

RE-POST GUY IS GOING TO RE-POST.

[_MeDotOrg]

I think there is a subtext to a lot of aussieguy's posts: Americans are fat, stupid, uneducated boors. Now there are more than a few Americans who fit that description, but it does seem like that is the predominant theme of many of his postings.

[_subgenius]

To be fair, Aussie hails from the overtly racist country of Australia, and introspection is often confusing....but no worries, mate - them aboriginals still can't drink in public.

[_aussieguy55]

Good grief I thought it was only about Trump not Americans in general. Our government and opposition made a an apology for what we did to our indigenous people. We have programs to uplift many folks. We recognize their right to the land. Much needs to be done.

[_Some Schmo]

I think there is a subtext to a lot of aussieguy's posts: Americans are fat, stupid, uneducated boors. Now there are more than a few Americans who fit that description, but it does seem like that is the predominant theme of many of his postings.

Well, I have to say that this has been on my mind a lot more lately too.

I work in an industry that demands smart people, so I'm quite certain that my view of Americans had been somewhat skewed by the people I've worked with over the years. I say this because it was a complete shock to me that there were enough stupid people in this country for Trump to win. That was truly unnerving to learn, and I still haven't quite recovered.

I think I may have swung too far the other way (Americans probably aren't as stupid as it currently feels like they are), but it's hard not to do so, given the obviousness of Trump's lack of fitness/competence.

[_aussieguy55]

Francis Bacon put it four centuries ago,

"He doth like the ape, that the higher he clymbes the more he shows his ars."

The advantage that both the British and Australian parliamentary system is that the Prime Minister is elected by the party which wins most seats. So we can remove (we do just that) if there was a problem. Our electoral districts are created by an independent commission and there is public funding of elections.
https://rantt.com/the-top-10-most-gerry ... in-america

When it came to gay marriage we have plebiscite which passed and now we have it. We are having an inquiry now to best keep the fundamentalists happy maybe give them exceptions to not have to employ gay teachers or admit gay students. The problem is with expressing ones view in the workplace. I was working in the public sector and our code of conduct was no discussion of politics or religion in the workplace. Some want the right in the workplace "It said employees would be licensed to tell a single mother that they are “inappropriate parents” or to tell a LGBTIQ employee “they are praying for them every day that they will be made whole as a straight person”."

[_Chap]

...

The advantage that both the British and Australian parliamentary system is that the Prime Minister is elected by the party which wins most seats. So we can remove (we do just that) if there was a problem. ...

Please could you just remind me how 'We' are supposed to do that'? Preferably in the next 48 hours or so ...

[_aussieguy55]

You have so many checks and balances. One side gets their President elected. If his party does not have control of either house there is little that can be done. Remember Moscow Mitch "We will make him a one term President" Also the other party might have been able to get their judges in the court. So bills get challenged. So the Democrats have the lower house and the GOP the courts and Senate and President. Pile of bills sitting in Senate that McConnell has no intention of voting on. So you have a President and his family doing very well financially. Hotel bookings in Ireland. Why do Americans bother to vote. The Koch brothers and others get their way.