Removing Trump will Doom GOP for decades

[_Some Schmo]

Republicans would be forced to cope with the concept of honesty.

The GOP would be an empty shell without BS. There is no easier way to be consistently wrong than by joining the GOP.

The base exposes itself to so much BS, you can tell right away when someone is in the cult. They start off by saying something ludicrous, because all they have to draw on in terms of knowledge is BS right wing nonsense.

[_Gunnar]

The base exposes itself to so much BS, you can tell right away when someone is in the cult. They start off by saying something ludicrous, because all they have to draw on in terms of knowledge is BS right wing nonsense.

Please pardon me if this is too off topic, but that comment reminds me of the story of two mountain lions in Texas who were brothers who met in adulthood after not having seen each other for years. One was sleek, fit and healthy, and the other was skinny, mangy and emaciated. The healthy one remarked, "hey, brother, why are you so sickly looking? What have you been eating?"

"Texans," was the reply.

"That's what I've been eating too." said the healthy brother. "Tell me, how do you catch your Texans?"

"Well, I wait, concealed in a tree, until one comes along, and then I scream and leap down on him and kill him."

"Well, no wonder you're so sickly and undernourished. When you scream like that, you scare the crap out of him, and then when you pounce like that, you knock all the hot air out of him. After all that, there's nothing left but skin and bones!"

Just substitute "Republican politicians" for "Texans", and we have a perfect analogy!

[_EAllusion]

Incidentally, removing Trump would hurt the GOP for approximately a year to two years at most in terms of support of the Republican party. Political memory is very short and recovery to the baseline should happen relatively quickly. There is a tricky aspect to this in that we are coming into a census year and probably in the last election where Democrats can realistically win the Senate for a long time. Republicans are on the cusp of being able to rig our democracy further into semi-permanent authoritarian rule and Democrats are on the cusp of their last-best chance to rewrite federal laws to make that harder. It's a particularly bad time for them to have a down election. It would hurt them for quite some time in that sense.

The upshot is they'd still have a vestige of their conscience. I appreciate this is not much of an upshot for some.

[_ajax18]

“The tightest labor market in decades and decades and ordinary working people are barely seeing gains.”

So picking lettuce is not considered ordinary people? Globalization is not just about illegal immigrants. We bring in H1b visas. This allows employers to pay less and the rich get richer as you say. Many jobs can be done by people in India working for $1/day. Why would a company stay in the US and pay union wages when they can open up a factory in the Phillipines and pay people next to nothing?

I had a guy complaining about how thick his glasses were. He was -10.00 OU. He said, "But I got these in Canada for $1200 and they're very thin." He's right but Canada is not bound by the same ANSI standards for shatter proof lenses as we are in the US. Hence, we're just not competitive and the laws on contact lenses, hi index lenses, sold online outside the US and brought into the US are not enforced in the age of globalization.

The rust belt seemed to agree with Trump on these issues in the last election.

[_EAllusion]

Globalization isn't responsible for laws that make it hard to maintain a union. While the decline in unionized labor is in part caused by globalization, missing the fact that one party in the US has been extremely effective at passing laws that chip away at collective bargaining power is obtuse.

[_EAllusion]

Many jobs can be done by people in India working for $1/day. Why would a company stay in the US and pay union wages when they can open up a factory in the Phillipines and pay people next to nothing?

Good question. Why aren't all the translocatable jobs in India for sub-min wages right now? What's preventing that from being a reality right this minute? What do you think?

[_canpakes]

Many jobs can be done by people in India working for $1/day. Why would a company stay in the US and pay union wages when they can open up a factory in the Phillipines and pay people next to nothing?

Sounds like free market capitalism at work.

I had a guy complaining about how thick his glasses were. He was -10.00 OU. He said, "But I got these in Canada for $1200 and they're very thin." He's right but Canada is not bound by the same ANSI standards for shatter proof lenses as we are in the US. Hence, we're just not competitive and the laws on contact lenses, hi index lenses, sold online outside the US and brought into the US are not enforced in the age of globalization.

More free market capitalism at work.

What is the problem here for you?

The rust belt seemed to agree with Trump on these issues in the last election.

No, because Trump has never operated a business that did not actively employ all of these features of free market capitalism that you seem to want to complain excessively about while ranting that socialists are taking your money.

The Rust Belt is fooling themselves, because they've been fooled by Trump.

[_moksha]

The base exposes itself to so much ____, you can tell right away when someone is in the cult. They start off by saying something ludicrous, because all they have to draw on in terms of knowledge is ____ right wing nonsense.

Sounds like an indictment of the conservative posters on this board.

[_ajax18]

Good question. Why aren't all the translocatable jobs in India for sub-min wages right now? What's preventing that from being a reality right this minute? What do you think?

We're in a service economy. You still can't outsource an optometrist, at least not yet. Telemedicine is coming but its still illegal and not as big as it will be. But we don't produce much anymore, hence our trade deficit.

[_EAllusion]

Good question. Why aren't all the translocatable jobs in India for sub-min wages right now? What's preventing that from being a reality right this minute? What do you think?

We're in a service economy. You still can't outsource an optometrist, at least not yet. Telemedicine is coming but its still illegal and not as big as it will be. But we don't produce much anymore, hence our trade deficit.

I used the word translocateable for a reason. Why aren't the millions of jobs that are translocateable not gone from the US right now?