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As if we needed another reason to not watch the NBA,

Demonstrators in Hong Kong began burning their LeBron James jerseys and merchandise after the NBA star made comments that were critical of Daryl Morey, and cited the “negatives” of free speech.

Pro-democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong did not take kindly to James’ comments scolding a pro-democracy tweet by Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey and slamming the American tradition of free speech as sometimes being “negative,” all because the NBA has lost money over its deals with China.

As China seeks to tighten its grip on the once free Hong Kong, protesters have flooded the streets to protect their freedoms. But last week, when Rockets GM Morey tweeted his support for the pro-democracy movement in the former British protectorate, the NBA sidled to China’s side and castigated Morey for his support of freedom.

By Monday, L.A. Lakers star LeBron James jumped feet first into the controversy by scolding Morey for supporting those seeking freedom and even attacking Morey’s right to free speech.

“Yes, we do have freedom of speech,” James said on Monday. “But at times, there are ramifications for the negative that can happen when you’re not thinking about others when you only think about yourself.”

James went on to scold Morey for tweeting his support for Hong Kong’s demonstrators despite the harm it may have done to the NBA’s big-money deals with the Chinese.

“So many people could have been harmed,” James complained, “not only financially but physically, emotionally, spiritually. So just be careful what we tweet and what we say and what we do. Even though yes, we do have freedom of speech, it can be a lot of negative that comes with it.”

But supporters of the pro-democracy demonstrators slammed James.
“James was trying, you know, to take a side, on the China side, which is, like, ridiculous,” Aaron Lee told ESPN. “He was being honest financially. Financial is money. Simple as that. LeBron James stands for money. Period.”

“People are angry,” James Lo added.

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Perhaps Republicans don't buy enough sneakers to concern LeBron when he alienates WASP fans with anti law enforcement and anti Trump rhetoric. I'll admit I haven't watched the NBA regularly since before LeBron even came into the league. Bottom line, free speech is great but only when it benefits a cause LeBron cares about or effects him or his tribe. Democracy and civil rights in Hong Kong is not one of those causes. BLM and climate change apparently are.

It's beyond not watching a basketball game again. I'm going to avoid buying tennis shoes from whichever company endorses him.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Thought that this was going to be a thread about another sweet real estate ‘transaction’ that the Trump team is working on. : )
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canpakes wrote:Thought that this was going to be a thread about another sweet real estate ‘transaction’ that the Trump team is working on. : )

Or a Biden board seat
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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Thought that this was going to be a thread about another sweet real estate ‘transaction’ that the Trump team is working on. : )

Or a Biden board seat

Too late for that. You’ll need to find another hair-fire.
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Let's think ... what has Trump said about HK?

TL/DR:

"I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a 'tough business.' I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Personal meeting?"

Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

CNN)During a private phone call in June, President Donald Trump promised Chinese President Xi Jinping that the US would remain quiet on pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks continued, two sources familiar with the call tell CNN.

The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy.

And like other calls with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Saudi Arabia, records of Trump's call with Xi were moved to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system, greatly limiting the number of administration officials who were aware of the conversation.

Trump's commitment to China had immediate and far-reaching effects throughout the US government as the President's message was sent far and wide.

In June, the State Department told then-US general counsel in Hong Kong, Kurt Tong, to cancel a planned speech on the protests in Washington because the President had promised Xi no one from the administration would talk about the issue.

Tong was also slated to speak at a Washington-based think tank in early July but the State Department asked for that event to be canceled as well. That speech was ultimately rescheduled for after Tong's scheduled retirement later that month meaning he eventually had the opportunity to speak about Hong Kong but as a former official.

The Financial Times first reported some details of the President's commitment.

At the time, reporters asked State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus if Tong was barred from making a tough speech after Trump and Xi's trade truce during the G20 summit.

"I believe that that was based off of anonymous reports, and that's not something that we ever validate here at the State Department. I don't see much truth to that," she responded.

Trump has deferred to China on the situation in Hong Kong when asked about it publicly in recent months.

"Well, something is probably happening with Hong Kong because when you look at, you know, what's going on, they've had riots for a long period of time. And I don't know what China's attitude is," Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House on August 1.

"Somebody said that at some point they're going to want to stop that. But that's between Hong Kong and that's between China, because Hong Kong is a part of China. They'll have to deal with that themselves. They don't need advice," he added.

He echoed that sentiment in a tweet on August 14.

"I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a 'tough business.' I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Personal meeting?"
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ajax18 wrote:Perhaps Republicans don't buy enough sneakers to concern LeBron when he alienates WASP fans with anti law enforcement and anti Trump rhetoric.

I'm trying to imagine the Venn Diagram that shows the overlap of people concerned with law enforcement and people who support Trump, and all I see is a figure 8.
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On the one hand, yeah, screw the NBA on this one. On the other hand, Trump is doing the same thing re: Hong Hong and you're fine with that, so, is this thread to point out your own hypocrisy or something?
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-Injustice Anywhere Is A Threat To Justice Everywhere- Our Lives Begin To End The Day We Become Silent About Things That Matter-

LeBron James

Offer not valid in Hong Kong

- LeBron endorses Hillary
- LeBron campaigns w/ Hillary
- LeBron calls Trump supporters 'uneducated'
- LeBron calls Trump a 'bum' & 'hateful'
- LeBron attacks Trump on border wall

*Mention Communist China atrocities*

- LeBron 'We’re not politicians. It’s a political thing'
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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