ajax18 wrote:Well Mitt Romney was a bully who cut another boy's hair in high school. He was also an abuser of animal rights for leaving a dog on top the roof of his car. This was the character of Mitt Romney according to this board, at least it was until he started speaking out against Trump.
Yes, way to highlight just how bad Trump is. He's so bad, he makes Romney seem like a hero. Binders full of women Romney. 47% takers Romney. That douche bag.
Incredible, isn't it?
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
As has been pointed out numerous times before, this is an extremely childish defense. The fact that someone else also did something bad does not diminish the seriousness of what Trump is alleged to have done in the slightest! Would you let one of your children off scot free for serious misbehavior because they could show that a sibling or friend had previously done the same misdeed? The fact that someone else has done or been accused of committing similar atrocities or crimes is totally irrelevant and does not entitle Trump to be given a pass for whatever he wants to do!
Mitt Romney was about as squeaky clean and presidential as they come. And yet the left still found ways to smear him. That's what politicians and cable news networks do these days.
At least we both can both be happy that Mitt Romney did not win the election of 2016.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
No he just doesn't know how to win. He still doesn't.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
canpakes wrote:As for ‘bad work’ - that’s why you monitor your project, and have means to compel subs to adjust and repair work found to not meet the contracted spec, ...
and now you reveal your ignorance for the construction industry. For example, one of the "means to compel" is by not paying. For example, as an architect there are situations (contractual) that occur where my role is to inspect work and approve a contractor's application for payment. Without my approval...no payment. This "review" occurs at any number of phases during construction...because drawings are also "contractual". Because believe it or not...asking pretty please to have a New York Union plumber do it the way I say is not as compelling as you imagine...but you go on..tell us how it is in the real world, where apparently looking out first for your family and employees is just bad business.
You're basically repeating the first part of my argument, about the ability to compel. Thank you for proving my point there.
That having been noted, you'd also know that withholding payment is not the same as simply 'not paying'. The first seeks to resolve the issue and the second comes down to merely strong-arming for gain in the course of a disagreement.
After you actually end up describing the process to compel (likely with a subcontractor to whom you've already paid a deposit, as well, so your incentive is to repair rather than replace the sub), you then also seem to end up agreeing with me on the need to actively manage a project, as opposed to merely disputing cost at the end of the day on the threat that your lawyer's fees will be greater than your subcontractor's resources.
There's a good reason why the firms that you work for don't act like Trump and his company claim to have. Neither would our own company. Regardless of your mistaken assumptions, we're doing quite well. ; )
I hired a painter, an independent contractor, to paint the exterior of my house. The man needed the cash, and I wanted the job done anyway. He busted his ass in 100 degree weather to do a beautiful job on my residence.
What kind of raging asshole would I be if I stiffed him, or claimed he did sub-par work and only paid him a 1/5th of what I owed him because 'it's just good business to lowball people after we shook hands'? What kind of asshole do you have to be to support someone who does this?
Man. If there's one thing subgenius and ajax have taught us is there is no depth too deep for Trump to plumb and his supporters are right there with him. They're not patriots. They're damned vile.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hired a painter, an independent contractor, to paint the exterior of my house. The man needed the cash, and I wanted the job done anyway. He busted his ass in 100 degree weather to do a beautiful job on my residence.
What kind of raging asshole would I be if I stiffed him, or claimed he did sub-par work and only paid him a 1/5th of what I owed him because 'it's just good business to lowball people after we shook hands'? What kind of asshole do you have to be to support someone who does this?
Man. If there's one thing subgenius and ajax have taught us is there is no depth too deep for Trump to plumb and his supporters are right there with him. They're not patriots. They're damned vile.
- Doc
Exactly. What subs is describing doesn’t match the instance of ‘renegotiating’ a $140,000 contracted price down to $25,000 after-the-fact, on the threat of bankrupting the other party through court costs.
But perhaps subs can tell us the mechanism by which this reduction was calculated at the point of dispute. Right? ; )
ajax18 wrote:Mitt Romney was about as squeaky clean and presidential as they come.
Perhaps, but at least somewhat debatable, and only when compared to Trump. There absolutely is no honest or reasonable way to claim that Trump is even close to being honest and "squeaky clean." The most damning evidence against him comes from his own ignorant and clueless mouth and actions!
If it came down to a choice between Mitt Romney and Donald Trump for president, and they were the only viable options, I would definitely prefer Romney. I wouldn't vote for Trump any sooner than I would vote for a Mafia Don.
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“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Gunnar wrote: I wouldn't vote for Trump any sooner than I would vote for a Mafia Don.
It's becoming clear that it's the same thing or at least has gleaned the same effect. As Mafia Don's go, he's entirely inept though. More like he's a bit more down the chain in the family hierarchy. Basically Putin's stooge.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb