US pulling out of North Syria

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Chap wrote:Well, how about the fact that the US has an ally there that even Trump would not be stupid enough to think of dumping,

Obviously, Trump is Netanyahu's puppet.

Chap wrote: an ally surrounded by potentially hostile and often unstable states who would like to dismantle it.

Why is the US not protecting other countries like Rwanda, Mexico, Uganda? Bad things are happening in other parts of the world and the US is not doing anything to help. Why is Israel so special and why is it worthy of our protection?

Chap wrote: and which also has nuclear weapons.

So let's work on a better NMD system. Muslim extremists hate us because our country is protecting Israel too much. Israel cost us 9/11.
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Chap wrote: And it's also the region from which a lot of the world's oil comes.

And climate change.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Chap wrote:Well, how about the fact that the US has an ally there that even Trump would not be stupid enough to think of dumping,

Obviously, Trump is Netanyahu's puppet.

It's not just Trump. Until the US political landscape changes seismically, any American president who wants to survive has to stand by Israel when push comes to shove.

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Chap wrote: an ally surrounded by potentially hostile and often unstable states who would like to dismantle it.

Why is the US not protecting other countries like Rwanda, Mexico, Uganda? Bad things are happening in other parts of the world and the US is not doing anything to help. Why is Israel so special and why is it worthy of our protection?

Good question. So here is your answer:

Chap wrote: and which also has nuclear weapons.

It's not a moral question. It's a naked matter of the national security interest of the US.

DoubtingThomas wrote:So let's work on a better NMD system. Muslim extremists hate us because our country is protecting Israel too much. Israel cost us 9/11.

See above. Itss certainly a nasty dangerous world with no fully safe options.

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Chap wrote: And it's also the region from which a lot of the world's oil comes.

And climate change.

Er, yes. And have too. And this is relevant to the 'why is the middle east strategically important to the US' how, exactly?
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Weird how people all of a sudden don’t understand the problems that come with being wildly erratic has on geopolitics and diplomacy. No one wanted to be in Syria. We were there for a host of reasons that were a result of previous Administrations’ strategic decisions and promises made through stated goals. Syria > ISIS > Iraq based on lies to get us there under the auspices of culture change as a result of 9/11 > Afghanistan > AQ > Saudi Arabia > Gulf War > Iraq/Iran war > Iraq is an ally to counter Soviet regional influence > CIA funded Afghani muj

So on and so forth.

If I were an ally or if someone getting into bed with us, at this point due to our political track record I’d consider us totally unreliable and I’d consider other options.

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Chap wrote: It's not a moral question. It's a naked matter of the national security interest of the US.


Israel has nuclear weapons and ranks #17 in military strength. Iran (ranks #14) is the only country in the middle east that can be a "threat" to Israel, but there is no evidence that Iran is planning to attack Israel. Countries like Iraq or Syria stand no chance against Israel. I think Israel can defend itself. https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

Even if some crazy country obtains a nuclear weapon, it wouldn't have to capability to use it immediately. It is obviously not easy to fire ballistic missiles. There is no imminent threat and we shouldn't be in the middle east.

Chap wrote: Er, yes. And have too. And this is relevant to the 'why is the middle east strategically important to the US' how, exactly?


So what is causing climate change? The good thing is that nuclear fusion may be a reality in the near future, when it happens petroleum will be out of business.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... fficiency/

Chap wrote:It's not just Trump. Until the US political landscape changes seismically, any American president who wants to survive has to stand by Israel when push comes to shove.


But most Americans do not know why 9/11 happened. According to the CIA, "The history, culture, and body of beliefs from which bin Laden has shaped and spread his message are largely unknown to many Americans" Bin Laden "spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel."

For National Security the US needs to stop getting involved so much in the middle east.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:... into bed with us, at this point due to our political track record I’d consider us totally unreliable and I’d consider other options.

- Doc

Your sentiment here has credence only inasmuch as it applies to a middle eastern country. History and a map shows whats going on in that region...Iran has every reason to be nervous...just ask Libya.

Nevertheless I don't seem to see any non-mideast nations scrambling to reject our military aid and subsidies, so i think we're fine. (notwithstanding your imaginary track record).
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subgenius wrote:Your sentiment here has credence only inasmuch as it applies to a middle eastern country. History and a map shows whats going on in that region...Iran has every reason to be nervous...just ask Libya.

Nevertheless I don't seem to see any non-mideast nations scrambling to reject our military aid and subsidies, so i think we're fine. (notwithstanding your imaginary track record).

I fully expect some utterly degenerate damned crap posting muppet to pop up on this thread or the other one as unintended object lessons on perfidy, ignorance, treachery, and vacuous blathering believing that hitting 'enter' is all it takes to counter any and all facts.

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Re: US pulling out of North Syria

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The US is sending additional military assets to Syria to secure oil fields. Well past time to pretend to believe a different talking point Subs.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image
- Doc

....yep you legit.
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EAllusion wrote:The US is sending additional military assets to Syria to secure oil fields. Well past time to pretend to believe a different talking point Subs.

There is no need to believe otherwise, so perhaps you could pretend to be informed and get back to me on what you are talking about.
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