The Constitutional Crisis Thread

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_Res Ipsa
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ok, but Imma pull a Peterson and not give you credit.


Cool beans.
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During the Obama administration, House Republicans decided to change the rules. They delegated the subpoena power for many committees directly to the chairperson or to a majority of the committee members. Because the Republicans held the majority in the house, that meant that those committees could conduct investigations with only the Republicans on the committees having the power to subpoena documents and witnesses. Democrats, frozen out of the investigation process, strenuously objected. Republicans mumbled something about elections having consequences and gave the Democrats the single fingered salute.


Here is an article about this.

Democrats blast House GOP subpoena rules change
By LAUREN FRENCH 02/10/2015 01:30 PM EST Updated 02/10/2015 01:36 PM EST

Democratic lawmakers are harshly criticizing House Republicans for altering committee rules governing how chairmen can subpoena witnesses and documents.

In a letter shared with POLITICO, the Democrats slams the GOP conference for changing rules on a number of House committees to make it easier for Republicans to subpoena witnesses without consultation or approval from minority lawmakers - an effort that came as Republicans are preparing aggressive oversight efforts for President Barack Obama’s final two years in office.

Sixteen Democrats, all ranking members of House committees, accused Republicans of attempting to create Darrell Issa-like committee structures, referring to the former Oversight and Government Reform chairman who was criticized by Democrats for his dogged probes into the White House.

“For decades, responsible committee chairmen—both Democratic and Republican—recognized that the coercive power of subpoenas should be used only as a last resort, and they obtained the concurrence of the ranking member or called a committee vote before issuing subpoenas,” the lawmakers wrote on Tuesday.

Letter-singers include Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the Oversight and Benghazi committees, Michigan Rep. Sander Levin, the ranking member on Ways and Means panel, New Jersey Rep. Frank Pallone, the top Democrat on Energy and Commerce Committee, and Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, the Budget Committee’s top Democrat.

Cummings has been leading the charge against what Democrats argue is Republican over-reach into the Obama administration. He and Issa infamously quarreled over the California Republican’s investigation in the Internal Revenue Service and the Fast and Furious gun-running controversy.

Recently Cummings has sparred with Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the chairman of the House’s Benghazi Committee over how the GOP lawmakers governing the panel failed to include Democrats in key interviews with witnesses. Cummings has also clashed with Issa’ successor, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) over the rules for the Oversight panel.


https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/ ... les-115068
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moksha wrote:
Exiled wrote:At least you didn't try and paint me as a 4chan'er for pushing back a little on the political orgy going on here.

Good point. There must be some dividing line between 4chan and say anything. Who says starting false fires to mask the gun smoke at the Trump artillery line will not work? Remember, the best defense is an unending barrage of offense and no one can be quite as offensive at Trump Republicans.


I wonder if 4chan has posters who are deliberately nonsensical to make it easier to discount a little push-back of the corporate left/right narrative?
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Exiled wrote:I wonder if 4chan has posters who are deliberately nonsensical to make it easier to discount a little push-back of the corporate left/right narrative?

I'm sure they have all kinds.

Just like we have Russians like you pushing their idiotic propaganda.
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