Anyone Watch the Latest Democrat Debate? Anyone care?

[_DoubtingThomas]

Religious voters are ____ lemmings. They'll vote for whomever their religious leaders recommend.

So that means Pete won't win religious GOP voters, he should focus on Obama voters that voted for Trump.

Buttigieg has never endorsed mixing religion with govt. .

But he is mixing religion with politics. That is how you begin and it could get out of control.

[_MissTish]

I don't care about his sexual preferences. I just don't like that he is using religion to get supporters. His homosexuality is incompatible with Christianity, but that does't stop him from talking too much about religion.

He's an Episcopalian. They're Christian and don't have an issue with homosexuality. Or did you mean not compatible with your sort of Christianity?

[_DoubtingThomas]

He's an Episcopalian.

That is 1.2% of the US population.

They're Christian and don't have an issue with homosexuality.

Buttieg believes in a book that encourages homophobia and misogyny. I do not understand how a homosexual can be a religious Christian. Bittieg said his religion influences his politics.

[Guest]

And many. perhaps most flat earthers, don't understand how anyone can be a Christian and still believe that the world is a spinning globe that revolves around a distant sun.

[Guest]

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[_DoubtingThomas]

And many flat earthers don't understand how anyone can be a Christian and still believe that the world is a spinning globe that revolves around a distant sun.

Because it does contradict the Bible.

[_Gunnar]

Because it does contradict the Bible.

So? That does not negate my point. There are numerous things that contradict or seem to contradict the Bible that are nevertheless true. If one insists upon a strictly literal interpretation of the Bible, the currently accepted, spinning globe earth concept is one of them.

[_Some Schmo]

Religious voters are ____ lemmings. They'll vote for whomever their religious leaders recommend.

So that means Pete won't win religious GOP voters...

Unless he wins over religious leaders. Any Democrat will want to do that.

Buttigieg has never endorsed mixing religion with govt. .

But he is mixing religion with politics. That is how you begin and it could get out of control.

Dude, you have to let people have their religion, as silly as it is to you and me, until they actually try to use it to influence public policy. There are plenty of politicians who attempt that. Buttigieg isn't one of them, so your criticism is hollow.

I understand the sensitivity to religious influence over public policy, but you have to pick the battles where that's an actual threat.

[_moksha]

Buttieg believes in a book that encourages homophobia and misogyny. I do not understand how a homosexual can be a religious Christian.

This might make sense to those on the hate-filled end of Christianity, but those people support Trumz, Trumb, crap... this spelling stuff is too hard. Best to stick with Buttigieg.

[_Chap]

I do not understand how a homosexual can be a religious Christian.

Two points:

(a) I find that when one completely fails to understand how somebody who is an A can also be a B, it is a good idea to find such a person and talk to them. Have you tried that? Of course it does not always solve your problem, but it quite often does, in my experience at least.

(b) When I was a Christian, and did the whole church-going, sermon listening, Bible-reading, praying thing, plus a fair amount of theological reading, one thing was absolutely clear to me: the religion of Jesus is a religion for sinners. If you feel that you are, in moral terms, pretty well on the right side of what you conceive to be 'the rules', then in effect Jesus is saying to you 'Great to hear that. Hope we meet again later on. But if you will excuse me I have some urgent stuff to do.' And you see him running off to talk to the people whose lives are in a mess, who hate what they are doing and can't stop, and all the rest of it. Those are the people he did the whole incarnation thing for, and to save whom he ultimately died in agonising pain and desolation.

So the whole 'how can you be a Christian if you do <stuff that I believe to be forbidden by a moral code I claim to be based on the Bible>' thing seems to be based on some pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what Christianity is about.