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[_DoubtingThomas]

Nobody reads the Bible for a legal analysis of moral questions

What you are saying makes sense because almost nobody reads the Bible in the first place. How do you explain 2 Tim 3:16 - 17, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" ?

[_huckelberry]

Nobody reads the Bible for a legal analysis of moral questions

What you are saying makes sense because almost nobody reads the Bible in the first place. How do you explain 2 Tim 3:16 - 17, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" ?

Doubting Thomas, I do not know the percentage but there are people myself included who read a value the Bible. True there are many who do not. I think inspiration of God means that God pushes people to think and will point a direction. People thinking is the example we need even if the thinking is limited to the natural knowledge human authors have. I realize there are people who believe that God is giving the words so they represent the actual inerrant knowledge that God has.I think it is overwhelmingly obvious that the Bible is not that. I believe that the belief in inerrancy of scripture is an error which injures the health of Christianity, It blocks thought, encourages blindness in service of pointless conformity.

[_ajax18]

I can't imagine her ever claiming such a thing. If she did, she would be as bad as ajax, and every bit as dishonest as Trump!

Did Harvard count Elizabeth Warren as Native American for purposes of meeting a diversity quota?

[_ajax18]

Take two.

Ajax,

I need to wrap my mind around your perspective, so rather than focusing on other minorities and their perceived special status I’d like to figure out what is “White” to you, and what is the White race to you. Clarifying questions follow.

1) Which ethnic groups around the globe qualify as White to you?

2) If you could create an ethnostate which ethnicities would you include?

3) Do you consider Jews to be White?

4) What roles do you believe Jews are playing in working against White interests?

5) Do you believe the White “race” will go extinct some day?


- Doc

Sorry but I needed to step away from this for a while and I had more important things to do.

It did get me thinking a bit. Technically white could mean people like EAllusion and Kevin Graham or even Schreech. I have a hard time imagining something worse than someone like these people being at the head of a white ethnostate. Belonging to the same race as people like this will cure you of any inclination you ever had to favor your own race. Would I give money to help EAllusion or Kevin Graham, or Gunnar before I gave it to someone like Ben Carson? The idea of Kevin and EAllusion reproducing and... I guess race isn't near as important as I once thought.

I never understood the Jewish thing much. I listen to Mark Levin every evening I'm in the car. I miss the late Charles Krauthammer.

I'm really not aligned with David Duke. I'm more a follower of Sean Hannity and President Trump. Most on this board aren't open minded enough to see any difference so I understand I'm basically talking to a brick wall on this. If you were to follow the money perhaps you might see where my values lie. How much have donated to stormfront? How much have I donated to Trump and his campaign? Did I ever give money to a campaign before Trump? Did I give money to help the McCain campaign?

So yeah, if you want to make sure I can't secure a future for the white race and white children Doc, I'm not so sure I mind that much anymore. We're more separated by political party than we are by race. I'd much rather have a Trump led Republican country (cleansed of liberals) than any racial ethnostate.

[_Gunnar]

I can't imagine her ever claiming such a thing. If she did, she would be as bad as ajax, and every bit as dishonest as Trump!

Did Harvard count Elizabeth Warren as Native American for purposes of meeting a diversity quota?

No! That is absolute BS invented by her political opponents.

[_canpakes]

I can't imagine her ever claiming such a thing. If she did, she would be as bad as ajax, and every bit as dishonest as Trump!

Did Harvard count Elizabeth Warren as Native American for purposes of meeting a diversity quota?

Apparently not. Can you explain why you don't believe Harvard?

I'll assume that you want to believe that Harvard did as you accuse. Are you ready to discuss how that would have affected Warren's academic curriculum vitae prior to, or after, Harvard?

[_Gunnar]

Doubting Thomas, I do not know the percentage but there are people myself included who read a value the Bible. True there are many who do not. I think inspiration of God means that God pushes people to think and will point a direction. People thinking is the example we need even if the thinking is limited to the natural knowledge human authors have. I realize there are people who believe that God is giving the words so they represent the actual inerrant knowledge that God has.I think it is overwhelmingly obvious that the Bible is not that. I believe that the belief in inerrancy of scripture is an error which injures the health of Christianity, It blocks thought, encourages blindness in service of pointless conformity.

I admire your approach to the Bible. I'm glad you agree that:

the belief in inerrancy of scripture is an error which injures the health of Christianity, It blocks thought, encourages blindness in service of pointless conformity.

I'm not one who denies that there is any value in reading or having some familiarity with the Bible. I think that is almost as foolish as believing that every word in the Bible is absolutely true and inerrant. Nevertheless, I don't think it is reasonable to conclude that it is any more likely to be God inspired than anything else ever written by us humans.

[_Gunnar]

So yeah, if you want to make sure I can't secure a future for the white race and white children Doc, I'm not so sure I mind that much anymore. We're more separated by political party than we are by race. I'd much rather have a Trump led Republican country (cleansed of liberals) than any racial ethnostate.

What do you mean by "secure a future for the white race and white children?" Do you really think that a future for the white race and white children is any more in jeopardy than that of any other race? Or do you mean assuring the dominance of the white race over all other races?

If you think the white race is any more entitled to dominance over all other races, or even mere existence than any other race, that makes you a racist. If you are now less sure of that because of your disdain for fellow whites with whom you so vehemently disagree, perhaps we are making some progress after all!

ETA: by the way, "a Trump led Republican country (cleansed of liberals)" would be as bad as or worse than any conceivable ethnostate. However, I will concede that an authoritarian state completely cleansed of conservatives would be nearly as bad. The fact is that a healthy state needs both conservatives and liberals. Together a proper balance of liberals and conservatives form a negative feedback loop that keeps society from either perishing from stagnation or speeding off the track out of control.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Take two.

Ajax,

I need to wrap my mind around your perspective, so rather than focusing on other minorities and their perceived special status I’d like to figure out what is “White” to you, and what is the White race to you. Clarifying questions follow.

1) Which ethnic groups around the globe qualify as White to you?

2) If you could create an ethnostate which ethnicities would you include?

3) Do you consider Jews to be White?

4) What roles do you believe Jews are playing in working against White interests?

5) Do you believe the White “race” will go extinct some day?


- Doc

Sorry but I needed to step away from this for a while and I had more important things to do.

It did get me thinking a bit. Technically white could mean people like EAllusion and Kevin Graham or even Schreech. I have a hard time imagining something worse than someone like these people being at the head of a white ethnostate. Belonging to the same race as people like this will cure you of any inclination you ever had to favor your own race. Would I give money to help EAllusion or Kevin Graham, or Gunnar before I gave it to someone like Ben Carson? The idea of Kevin and EAllusion reproducing and... I guess race isn't near as important as I once thought.

I never understood the Jewish thing much. I listen to Mark Levin every evening I'm in the car. I miss the late Charles Krauthammer.

I'm really not aligned with David Duke. I'm more a follower of Sean Hannity and President Trump. Most on this board aren't open minded enough to see any difference so I understand I'm basically talking to a brick wall on this. If you were to follow the money perhaps you might see where my values lie. How much have donated to stormfront? How much have I donated to Trump and his campaign? Did I ever give money to a campaign before Trump? Did I give money to help the McCain campaign?

So yeah, if you want to make sure I can't secure a future for the white race and white children Doc, I'm not so sure I mind that much anymore. We're more separated by political party than we are by race. I'd much rather have a Trump led Republican country (cleansed of liberals) than any racial ethnostate.

Again, you're discussing this topic in bad faith. Please, literally address each question above with an answer. Whatever you're providing isn't addressing the questions above in a precise and substantive manner.

- Doc

[_Gunnar]

Again, you're discussing this topic in bad faith. Please, literally address each question above with an answer. Whatever you're providing isn't addressing the questions above in a precise and substantive manner.

- Doc

I think he knows that if he answers those questions honestly, he will only make himself look even worse than he already does.