Jersey Girl wrote: Would you like a list? I'm serious. I can list them.
Hey I cheated a little and did a search starting with what we think of as the Golden Rule. Here's a list from kingjamesbibleonline.org.
This should be a good start at meeting your request.
Does the Golden Rule forbid suicide or child marriage?
DT. When you're ready to read and try to relate to my entire post then we'll talk. You simply took the intro (that was in response to a different request of yours--which I don't think you replied to) and riffed off it to pose your additional questions.
Yes, there are scriptures that cover suicide and prohibition of child marriage. Didn't you cover the Bible in your Sunday School yearly scripture rotation? Do you think you are well familiar with the Bible and how to locate life applications therein?
I'll be back later to see if you have something more to say and really want to explore the issues you have raised.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
ajax18 wrote:Well I'll grant Mark can be abrasive to liberals. Why would Mark hold these kind of opinions if conservatives hate Jews as much they claim?
I wouldn't call him abrasive. Vacuous perhaps. And that makes him seem like a waste of time. There are conservative sources I pay attention to in order to understand the underlying views better that they represent. Mark Levin isn't among them. Mostly I listen to find out what flavor of stale air is being pumped into empty heads at the moment.
Conservatives are traditionally pro Israel. I don't get your question. Or do you mean the alt right rather than conservatives?
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
ajax18 wrote:Well I'll grant Mark can be abrasive to liberals. Why would Mark hold these kind of opinions if conservatives hate Jews as much they claim?
I wouldn't call him abrasive. Vacuous perhaps. And that makes him seem like a waste of time. There are conservative sources I pay attention to in order to understand the underlying views better that they represent. Mark Levin isn't among them. Mostly I listen to find out what flavor of stale air is being pumped into empty heads at the moment.
Conservatives are traditionally pro Israel. I don't get your question. Or do you mean the alt right rather than conservatives?
American conservatism was viciously anti-semitic at one point. American anti-Semites helped inspire the Nazis. That flipped post WW-II in significant part because of evangelicals who see the existence of Israel as a fulfillment of their apocalyptic beliefs. But the anti-Semetic part never entirely went away. It just significantly reduced in size and influence. While still overshadowed, it's making a bit of a comeback. Call that alt-right if you will, but the alt-right is fairly mainstream right at this point. This is making for bizarre alliances between extremely dogmatic Zionists and people with full on neo-Nazi views towards the Jews.
I don't know if you've ever read any articles on situations where these people move in the same circles, but the short of it is 1) lol and 2) they bond over mutual Islamophobia.
ajax18 wrote:We belong to GHWB's Christ’s new world order. An American citizen has no more birthright to this country and what it has to offer than anyone born anywhere else in the world. That's why having borders is "immoral," to most of them.
"When you welcome even a child because of me, you welcome me. And when you welcome me, you welcome the one who sent me."
I think you’re in a tricky position if your belief in Christ is biblically consistent. Judge not lest ye be judged and all that. Additionally I think if you’re comfortable enough with your politics that you feel like you could explain it to Him as if He were standing next to you and not feel like His wrath would be upon you, I’d have to question what it is, exactly, that you believe. I have some thoughts about stoicism and how it relates to some of the themes we’ve been talking about, but I think I need some more time to think it over before posting a thought.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
It's a tricky position when you're a Christian/Mormon and your met with masses of beggars. The Book of Mormon says, "Are we not all beggars...." Yet from a practical stand point, one must know they can't go bankrupt giving to everyone with his hand out. You have to draw the line somewhere.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote:It's a tricky position when you're a Christian/Mormon and your met with masses of beggars. The Book of Mormon says, "Are we not all beggars...." Yet from a practical stand point, one must know they can't go bankrupt giving to everyone with his hand out. You have to draw the line somewhere.
Is that what you’re going to say to Jesus? What do you think He would respond with?
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
ajax18 wrote:It's a tricky position when you're a Christian/Mormon and your met with masses of beggars. The Book of Mormon says, "Are we not all beggars...." Yet from a practical stand point, one must know they can't go bankrupt giving to everyone with his hand out. You have to draw the line somewhere.
What you seem to be implying is that if you can't possibly help all of them, you are justified in refusing to help any of them. Is that right?
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Why do you have such a pathological fear of progress and change? Do you honestly think you have never benefited from progressive change, whether past or present? The only alternative to change and progress is eventual stagnation and death!
Why would you not embrace the idea of Republicans and Democrats having their own separate nations? It seems to me it would benefit both sides.
Nonsense! That would inevitably make it worse for both sides, because neither Conservatives nor Liberals have an absolute monopoly on either good or bad ideas. If they are not willing interact with and learn from each other in good faith, that will ultimately be detrimental to both sides. Besides that, one party rule that outlaws or excludes all competing parties is one of the defining characteristics of despotism, thus both of those two hypothetical separate nations would almost necessarily be despotic.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Is that what you’re going to say to Jesus? What do you think He would respond with?
- Doc
Well let's' take the people passing by beggars on their way to conference in Salt Lake City. How do you think Jesus will respond to these people? From the near death experiences I've read, He was far less judgmental and condemning than most see Him.
I think you're reasonable enough that you understand this. You don't give to every beggar you pass by either if I remember some of your posts right.
Gunnar in none of my posts did I say we should do nothing. I said everyone has to draw the line somewhere. It's part of being a good steward over that which the Lord has blessed you with. Trump has never said we should eliminate all immigration. He believes we should set and enforce limits on it though.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote:It's a tricky position when you're a Christian/Mormon and your met with masses of beggars. The Book of Mormon says, "Are we not all beggars...." Yet from a practical stand point, one must know they can't go bankrupt giving to everyone with his hand out. You have to draw the line somewhere.
Is that what you’re going to say to Jesus? What do you think He would respond with?
- Doc
While Ajax can't make an argument to save a life...I must inquire of you - are you claiming that "drawing a line" is something Jesus did not teach? It seems that you are implying that Christian Love is not deliberate or focused...which seems to contradict information given by scripture...or did He give, say, the Pharisees what they wanted?
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
