Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

https://mobile.Twitter.com/jrehling/sta ... 58?lang=en

It’s worth the read. I recall reading somewhere that Trump was heavily using some sort of medication years ago that was akin to methamphetamine, and the side effects were manifesting through his behavior and communication. I’ll have to see if I can dig it up.

Anyway. I’m not sure if the picture is legit or not, but it reminds me of when that stripper... Stormy Daniels! was on 60 Minutes and her pupils were the size of dinner plates.

- Doc
Last edited by Guest on Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_MeDotOrg
_Emeritus
Posts: 4761
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:29 pm

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _MeDotOrg »

The one thing that gives me pause is that Trump always seems to have the sniffles. Sudafed is a decongestant. But his age, obesity and body mass and stress levels would make him a great buy for heart attack futures.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization."
- Will Durant
"We've kept more promises than we've even made"
- Donald Trump
"Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist."
- Edwin Land
_Maksutov
_Emeritus
Posts: 12480
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:19 pm

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Maksutov »

When Trump is such a liar, why should we believe him that he doesn't do any substances? :confused:
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
_Jersey Girl
_Emeritus
Posts: 34407
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Jersey Girl »

Maksutov wrote:When Trump is such a liar, why should we believe him that he doesn't do any substances? :confused:

He says he doesn't drink alcohol. I've never heard him say that he doesn't do any 'substances'.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
_Jersey Girl
_Emeritus
Posts: 34407
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Jersey Girl »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:https://mobile.Twitter.com/jrehling/status/1180505950613958658?lang=en

It’s worth the read. I recall reading somewhere that Trump heavily used some sort medication years ago that was akin to methamphetamine and the side effects were manifesting in his behavior and communication. i’ll have to see if I can dig it up.

Anyway. I’m not sure if the picture is legit or not, but it reminds me of when that stripper... Stormy Daniels! was on 60 Minutes and her pupils were the size of dinner plates.

- Doc


Yeah hang on just a NY minute there. My eyes see one box of Sudafed. I cannot identify the remainder of packages in the drawer, can you? Do you see more than one box of Sudafed?

Yes, there are reports that he used Adderall in the past.

He's on 4 meds. A statin, daily aspirin, something for hair loss and an antibiotic to combat rosacea. You know the flushed face that some photogs tint orange? People are so gullible they don't compare photographs or put two (med) and two (condition) together. Look at the photo you posted the link to...does he look orange there? He's a fair skinned German with rosacea. His statin can also cause flushed face.

I know plenty of folks back East who take daily Sudafed for allergies. The humidity exacerbates allergies there.

If he's using Sudafed daily that probably accounts for his sniffling. It's a decongestant after all. If he were abusing Sudafed, his BP would likely be consistently elevated and I didn't see that it was high in his medical eval.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

MeDotOrg wrote:The one thing that gives me pause is that Trump always seems to have the sniffles. Sudafed is a decongestant. But his age, obesity and body mass and stress levels would make him a great buy for heart attack futures.


Yeah, that sniffling is a well known side effect of crushing and sniffing Adderall. Straight up speed, which, you know, 11,000 midnight tweets later start to make sense.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_Jersey Girl
_Emeritus
Posts: 34407
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Jersey Girl »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:The one thing that gives me pause is that Trump always seems to have the sniffles. Sudafed is a decongestant. But his age, obesity and body mass and stress levels would make him a great buy for heart attack futures.


Yeah, that sniffling is a well known side effect of crushing and sniffing Adderall. Straight up speed, which, you know, 11,000 midnight tweets later start to make sense.

- Doc


Both Adderall and Sudafed can cause sniffling. with regard to tweets in the wee hours, both Adderall and Sudafed can wire you. Adderall can actually have the opposite effect in some folks exacerbating brain fog.

Both medications, both, elevate blood pressure and heart rate. As I stated previously his annual physical doesn't show either symptom. Unless he knows the half life and cuts off whatever meds he might be taking prior to a physical.

In any case, I have to say I think this is really a non-issue. We don't know if he's abusing anything at all. I don't see any evidence of abuse. I see a guy with NPD doing what narcs do.

This reminds me of when folks were saying Hillary was on her last leg because she coughed so much. God forbid anyone have post nasal drip in allergy season.

I think the raising of this issue is largely beneath us and people need to get a grip.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

It’s not beneath us to wonder why his pupils are dilated in glaring light?

Image

Here he is at an Epstein party in ‘92:

Image

His eyes do, in fact, have normal dilation under normal circumstances, except when not. Is our President ripped to the tits?

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_Jersey Girl
_Emeritus
Posts: 34407
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Jersey Girl »

Cam I have no idea when the first photo was taken. I would guess that the second photo might have been taken when he was throwing back Adderall.

In any case, I don't know. I'm using his annual physical as counter evidence however weak you may think that evidence is.

He's on the heart meds I mentioned. If he's knocking back Sudafed in extreme amounts he's counteracting his heart meds. Then again, we're talking about someone who takes his statin/aspirin and hogs down fast food as a chaser.

He's not particularly smart.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
_Jersey Girl
_Emeritus
Posts: 34407
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 am

Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)

Post by _Jersey Girl »

You know I looked at some photos of his eyes on Google Images. I can find a zillion images where his eyes do not appear to be dilated.

I think Ajax18 needs to comment on this.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Post Reply