Hurting Economically Does Not Absolve a Trump Vote

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Aw, c’mon Ajax. You mean Cochran “shamed” the nine black folks on the jury in the criminal case into voting not guilty? How does that work?

Several of the jurors gave interviews after the trial about why they reached the unanimous verdict. Here’s one of many articles.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/151739- ... able-doubt

And the mostly white jury that found against Simpson in the civil trial certainly wasn’t shamed into letting him off the hook.

Aren’t you the guy who constantly complains about people making everything about race?

I was around for that trial. If you believed Simpson was guilty, you were shamed as a racist. The left has since softened it's stance as the evidence became insurmountable. But thank goodness for people who refused to be shamed by this and stood up for justice.
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BS. I lived through it, too. I live in a liberal part of the country. Us lawyers discussed the case obsessively. Lots of folks expressed opinions that he murdered Nicole, including me. I never witnessed anyone being shamed as racist for expressing that opinion. Even after the verdict, lots of us expressed the opinion that he did murder Nicole, but the prosecution made too many mistakes. Never saw anyone shamed for that either.

I think you’re myth making here.
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Res Ipsa wrote:BS. I lived through it, too. I live in a liberal part of the country. Us lawyers discussed the case obsessively. Lots of folks expressed opinions that he murdered Nicole, including me. I never witnessed anyone being shamed as racist for expressing that opinion. Even after the verdict, lots of us expressed the opinion that he did murder Nicole, but the prosecution made too many mistakes. Never saw anyone shamed for that either.

I think you’re myth making here.

No kidding. I never once heard anyone accused of racism for suspecting OJ was guilty.

I remember I didn't want to believe it at first, but that was because he was an NFL star, not because of his race. Over time, however, I had to accept the publicly known facts and was eventually persuaded he was guilty. Nobody called me a racist for being convinced by the facts.

Again, we see why ajax is accused of racism; the dude is obsessed with race.
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Same with me. I don't know of anyone being accused of being racist for believing OJ is guilty. I agree that he probably is guilty, though I wished that he weren't. I agree that both the police and the prosecution probably botched the case badly.

The prosecution's case certainly wasn't helped by the fact that, like ajax, the lead investigator in the case proved to be blatantly racist, which greatly damaged his credibility.
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If the prosecutor once said the N word, you must acquit.Very comforting to Nicole Brown's family...

OJ got away with that murder because he was African American and wealthy enough to hire Cochran to play the race card to it's full potential.
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Belief in OJ Simpson's guilt was widespread to the point that people who said otherwise had a hard time shaking the accusation they were saying something they cynically did not believe. It was a majority public stance.

The idea that people who thought OJ was guilty were a benighted minority who had to live in fear of being shamed as racist for saying so is a complete fabrication.

Norm MacDonald loved doing weekly OJ jokes to the point that his love of them itself is a meta-joke. Remember when the nation thought he was racist for doing so? No, you don't.
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ajax18 wrote:If the prosecutor once said the N word, you must acquit.Very comforting to Nicole Brown's family...

OJ got away with that murder because he was African American and wealthy enough to hire Cochran to play the race card to it's full potential.


Hmm. I think you misremember. That was something about the glove not fitting.

Surprise, Ajax. OJ had a star studded stable of lawyers because he was rich. He got off because the prosecutors were out lawyered and made some bad mistakes. That’s how it works in America. If you’re rich, you get the best lawyers in America and you walk or spend a little time at club fed. If you’re poor, you settle for a public defender and time in the big house.

Back in the day, I did an internship with a judge at a municipal court in a suburb in Boston. In three months, only one defendant was found not guilty — the one guy represented by a private attorney. Everyone else had public defenders and pleaded or was found guilty. And race? This was a poor, white suburb.

Try and put aside your racial resentment and understand: OJ skated on the criminal charges because he bought the best legal talent around.
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ajax18 wrote:If the prosecutor once said the N word, you must acquit.Very comforting to Nicole Brown's family...

OJ got away with that murder because he was African American and wealthy enough to hire Cochran to play the race card to it's full potential.

You don't give a crap what people think of you, do you?

Why do you even bother? You post nothing but pure damned nonsense.

Are you a liar or just chronically wrong/stupid?
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You don't give a ____ what people think of you, do you?

No, not really. Maybe Trump, Russell Nelson, or perhaps my many times great grandfather who fought in the civil war. But not anyone here I can think of.
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