On Taking on Holocaust Deniers

[_huckelberry]

C'mon Smokey, fess up. Did you spring from the womb hating Jews? Did your parents hate Jews? How did you discover holocaust denial? Tell us your story. You can't make a worse impression on the folks here than you already have, so what have you got to lose?

These seem like good questions. One might add why hate Jews, whats the point? Why all this obsession hating homosexuals?

If Smokey is a serious person he has answers to each of these questions. If he is serious he is confident and proud of those answers and is therefore able to stand up and explain them.

[_EAllusion]

The thing that gets me most about holocaust denial is that most of the people who trade in it on the one hand wax offended that the holocaust hoax besmirches the good name of Hitler and Naziism, but on the other hand, totally want another holocaust.

Peek just beneath the surface and you get, "The holocaust is a filthy lie, but a good idea..."

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

These seem like good questions. One might add why hate Jews, whats the point? Why all this obsession hating homosexuals?

If Smokey is a serious person he has answers to each of these questions. If he is serious he is confident and proud of those answers and is therefore able to stand up and explain them.

Because groypers unironically believe Jews are degenerate filth, are behind all the wars ever fought or something close to it, and are Jewish supremacists who must be outed and defeated.

That’s it.

As to why they believe it? Well, everyone believes in something. Some beliefs are benign. Others, not so much. I contend it all goes back to existential dread, and the inevitability of death and suffering. These two things are so intolerable, and create so much angst, that coping mechanisms must be invented and believed in order to alleviate them.

Edit: Also, as a subset of suffering I’d add sexual frustration, in whatever form that takes.

- Doc

[_Quasimodo]

Because groypers unironically believe Jews are degenerate filth, are behind all the wars ever fought or something close to it, and are Jewish supremacists who must be outed and defeated.

That’s it.

As to why they believe it? Well, everyone believes in something. Some beliefs are benign. Others, not so much. I contend it all goes back to existential dread, and the inevitability of death and suffering. These two things are so intolerable, and create so much angst, that coping mechanisms must be invented and believed in order to alleviate them.

Edit: Also, as a subset of suffering I’d add sexual frustration, in whatever form that takes.

- Doc

The 'I don't care if it's true, it's what I believe!' mind set is prevalent in all kinds of cultish groups. Arguing with them is a waste of energy.

All you can do is try to make people on the fence see the falsehoods.

[_Smokey]

What is the Holocaust? Can you even define it?

[_Smokey]

Let’s examine some lame arguments:

He proposes that Anne Franks book was written after she died.

Which book? There are several different versions with conflicting details, missing entries, etc.

Did you know that, Boomer?

If that were so it would be a literary curiosity but it would have no meaning for the reality of Nazi final solution.

It doesn’t matter if the Book of Mormon was translated from an ancient text, it has no meaning for the reality of the restoration of the Gospel.

OK, Boomer.

Let’s continue.

There is a mountain of much more solid evidence which precedes the book.

Post just one. All I’m asking for is, A.) You define what you mean by the Holocaust, and B.) You post one piece of actual scientific evidence that it happened.

Shouldn’t be too difficult if a mountain of evidence proceeds a fake Diary.

Anne Franke herself made a second version in 1944 upon the loose papers.

Which one was published? The first or second version, or both?

Hey Smokey, I admit I can think of one good thing Hitler did, after all nobody is all bad. He sent millions of Nazis to their death on the eastern front. Go to Go to.

And here we have a Boomer exposing itself, whom might otherwise pretend to be peaceful and rational in other places, gleefully celebrating the death of millions of men they don’t know anything about. This is your brain on Holocaustism. Deprogram yourself.

[_canpakes]

What is the Holocaust? Can you even define it?

Where all of those 'resettled' folks go, Smokey?

[_Smokey]

Auschwitz, Dachau and Buchenwald were not in the business of extermination. They were work camps, critical to the German war effort.

But did you know that the Jewish workers were compensated for their labor with scrip printed specifically for their use in stores, canteens and even brothels?

[_Chap]

What is the Holocaust? Can you even define it?

Where all of those 'resettled' folks go, Smokey?

For instance, there used to be about 3 million Jewish people in Poland before WWII. It was the biggest Jewish community in Europe.

How many are there now? About 20,000 is the estimate. Even if you double it to represent the post war population (okay let's make it TEN times bigger to avoid pointless quibbling) so as to to allow for those who left Poland to avoid continuing anti-Jewish pressure from the communist government imposed by Stalin after the war, there are a lot of Jews who somehow mysteriously ... evaporated.

How did that happen?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-radio-and-tv-17741185

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Just a reminder where Pole Smoker is getting his ideas from:

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/2333 ... left-right

The Kosher Sandwich

The Kosher Sandwich is a piece of alt-right theory which does not receive nearly enough attention, and so will be extrapolated upon here. The basic idea of the Kosher Sandwich is that the Jewish elite have essentially sandwiched the two competing normie political options between two fundamentally Jewish ideologies.

If you go to the Left, you end up with communist anarchism and/or cultural Marxism, which are quite clearly Jewish ideologies which undermine traditional Western (white) nations and values. The bigger problem is that the "safe" alternative posed, the opposite end of the spectrum which is advocated by the Jewish elites to oppose Marxism, is simply the other side of the Jewish ideological coin: neoliberalism, individualism, and anarcho-capitalism.

It is no cohencidence that all the top intellectuals of the libertarian movement were Jewish (Rothbard, Rand, Friedman, Mises). Individualism is safe for the Jew, because it undermines white collectivism and white nationalism, and thus undermines the threat of collective white opposition to blatant Jewish ethnocentrism. Unfettered capitalism is safe for the Jew, because they can thrive in a "free market" by applying ethnocentric nepotism amongst a deracinated and rootless base population. Neoliberal, internationalist capitalism achieves the same destruction of race, family, and traditional morality sought by the Marxists, and is arguably even more effective in this regard than the Left. The white libertarians who value freedom and individualism above all else are contributing just as much to the destruction of white peoples, nations, and values, (if not more so) than the Marxist Left.

-Doc