Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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_Gunnar
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Smokey wrote: I’m not arguing in bad faith and always happy to be learning and teaching. If I don’t know something or am wrong about some details I like to be corrected.

BS! I have seen no indication from you that you are even marginally amenable to correction, no matter how strong or abundant the evidence presented against what you claim. The more and stronger the evidence against you, the more you double down on sticking to your original assertions. Classic backfire effect!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Why would Holocaust denialists like Smokey have to use photoshopped images, falsified quotes and outright lies if they are telling the truth?
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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And why are they so desperately determined to believe Jews are inherently evil, even to the point of mendaciously inventing whatever "evidence" they feel they need to prove that point?
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Gunnar wrote:
Smokey wrote: I’m not arguing in bad faith and always happy to be learning and teaching. If I don’t know something or am wrong about some details I like to be corrected.

BS! I have seen no indication from you that you are even marginally amenable to correction, no matter how strong or abundant the evidence presented against what you claim.


Try me. Using the quote feature, quote me and then post your correction and reliable source of your correction below my quote.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Smokey wrote:Try me. Using the quote feature, quote me and then post your correction and reliable source of your correction below my quote.

Already been done by RI and others, many times.

Heck, even I've done it a few times. It ain't hard to do. ; )
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Gunnar wrote:And why are they so desperately determined to believe Jews are inherently evil, even to the point of mendaciously inventing whatever "evidence" they feel they need to prove that point?


He probably thinks he engages in what Herzog called "ecstatic truth." He thinks fabrications are Ok because they point to a deeper reality.

In reality, he's a two-bit liar in defense of a monstrous ideology he can't defend on the merits.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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EAllusion wrote:
In reality, he's a two-bit liar in defense of a monstrous ideology he can't defend on the merits.


This is a personal attack that violates the rules of the board.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Smokey wrote:
EAllusion wrote:
In reality, he's a two-bit liar in defense of a monstrous ideology he can't defend on the merits.


This is a personal attack that violates the rules of the board.

Sensitive snowflake is sensitive.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Smokey wrote:
EAllusion wrote:
In reality, he's a two-bit liar in defense of a monstrous ideology he can't defend on the merits.


This is a personal attack that violates the rules of the board.


Aren’t you the same guy who called me “Faggot? Glass houses, Smokey. Your problem is that you’ve told so many lies since you arrived that “two-bit liar” has become an accurate description. If you actually think rules have been broken, instead of putting on a phony martyr act, just hit the report link so that Shades gets an immediate report. Otherwise, no one is buying your fake snowflake act. :lol: :lol: :lol:
​“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”

― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Res Ipsa wrote:This is the price of offering a free speech forum. I’d say this place has been lucky not to attract a Smokey before now. Smokey is a Jew-hater who has warped and twisted his religion to help him feel justified about his Jew hating. He knows the rules here protect him, and he will skate right up to the edge of the rules to spout his hatred. And any time rules are enforced against him, he’ll whine about being censored. If you call out the lies he spouts, he’ll accuse you of othering, despite the fact that he’s not only about othering Jews — he’s all about demonizing and dehumanizing them. He’ll lie over and over and over because he knows there is no price to pay for it. And he feels no remorse for it because he’s convinced himself that anti-Mormons are just as bad as Jew haters and because he’s convinced himself that the Jews are behind anti-Mormonism.

There’s no downside for him. He’s protected by anonymity. He’s protected by Shades’ laudable commitment to free speech. If people leave, he’s shut down an anti-Mormon website. If he’s booted, he gets to be a martyr. He can’t be shamed because his hatred of Jews has burned the basic human decency out of him. He’s like a guest who takes a dump on his host’s living room carpet because he knows his host is too polite to make an issue out of it.

Everyone has to figure out how to handle this situation. When I’m done making my record, I’m just gonna stick him on ignore and let him spew his Jew hatred tripe. But I’m not letting a Jew-hating asshole chase me out of a place I like to hang out.

Yep, that sounds about right.
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