The disintegration of American democracy thread

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Thanks for that, Mak. When I made that statement I was thinking more along the lines of just how fundamentally ignorant people are of federal and state structures and functions, federal and state departments and functions, federal and state judicial structures and functions, so on and so forth. I would love to see a curriculum that by the time a kid graduates high school he or she would have a solid sense of their relationship to their state and federal districts, how governments operate, and how government officials administrate the electorate’s will.

Then again as I type that out I realize it’s an impossible task, hence the need for undergrad and postgrad studies.

I guess interacting with certain posters here and across other forums forces me to understand our system is unknowable to most voters, and trying to explain to them how something might operate within the rule of law is pointless. How does one prepare a citizen to understand ethics and civics by the time they’re of voting age? To be an informed and responsible participant in our system? I dunno.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Man, it just hit me. We need lessons in civics starting in Kindergarten all the way through grade 12. Half the people that post on this forum lack any sort of basic understanding about our government, how it operates, why it operates like it does, and why it's important to protect it from tyranny.

- Doc

Listen, I do the best that I can, okay? I hate to tell you how long it's been since I took Civics in HS and I only remember exactly one thing from then. That's why I ask questions all the time here.

As to your other comment regarding state/federal so far as judicial/courts systems go... I suggest following murder cases like it's your job. It's all right there in the case as well as forensics and psychology. Works for me!

[_MeDotOrg]

I haven't been posting as much in the last week. I have a deepening sense of depression about the future of this country. Trump will be impeached, but he will not be convicted in the Senate. The trial will further divide the country. Putin's objective will be fulfilled.

I still believe that the long moral arc of the universe bends towards justice, but we are living through the darkest Presidency in the history of this country. Republicans say the impeachment trial is the result of hatred, but the Democrats present facts and the Republicans scream that the facts are just an excuse for the emotional reasons to impeach.

When Trump screws the country, the Democrats fight back.

The Republicans grease up and bend over.

[_subgenius]

I haven't been posting as much in the last week. I have a deepening sense of depression about the future of this country. Trump will be impeached, but he will not be convicted in the Senate. The trial will further divide the country. Putin's objective will be fulfilled.

I still believe that the long moral arc of the universe bends towards justice, but we are living through the darkest Presidency in the history of this country. Republicans say the impeachment trial is the result of hatred, but the Democrats present facts and the Republicans scream that the facts are just an excuse for the emotional reasons to impeach.

When Trump screws the country, the Democrats fight back.

The Republicans grease up and bend over.

Geez, what a tragic case of #TDS you have...whatever occurred on November 07th, 2016 that has had you in such distress ever since?

How are you unable to discern, at your age and experience, that this theater has been contrived by the DNC and waning politic which ultimately met its demise at the end of the Clinton era (a.k.a. Nov 6th 2016)? Times have changed pops, and guys like you always seem to be remorseful about the whole thing....always thinking the horse-less carriage was blasphemy.

[_EAllusion]

How are you unable to discern, at your age and experience, that this theater has been contrived by the DNC and waning politic which ultimately met its demise at the end of the Clinton era (a.k.a. Nov 6th 2016)? Times have changed pops, and guys like you always seem to be remorseful about the whole thing....always thinking the horse-less carriage was blasphemy.

It was their final, most essential command.

[_canpakes]

It was their final, most essential command.

“Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. Just remember, what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening…”

[_subgenius]

It was their final, most essential command.

“Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. Just remember, what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening…”

What dolt use of a quote. What im seeing is happening but what any of us may read is not always what is happening... so spare us the derangement.
Apparently you're waaay older than i imagined... go figure that as "what's happening".

[_Some Schmo]

I have a deepening sense of depression about the future of this country.

I don't blame you. I saw a woman practically crying in an interview because she thought it was so unfair Trump was being impeached.

This is just one example of how damned stupid Americans can be.

Republicans are traitors. That's what we've learned this year. There's no sugarcoating that, and it is not an exaggeration. The GOP is currently crapping all over the constitution. They can go “F” themselves and their idiot religion.

[_canpakes]

What dolt use of a quote.

What a peculiar sentence structure.

Were you trying to use English?

Apparently you're waaay older than i imagined...

Am I supposed to make hair jokes about you, now? : D

[_EAllusion]

I still believe that the long moral arc of the universe bends towards justice,

This feels like the liberal civic religion version of karma.

Justice does not necessarily win out in the end. Anywho, with the twin rise of global fascism and atmospheric temperatures and authoritarian nations not being known for playing nice with one other, maybe the remnants of humanity will be a little nicer towards one other post-global thermonuclear holocaust. Gotta look on the bright side.