Does Mitt Romney really believe in the Gospel?

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Does Mitt Romney really believe in the Gospel?

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In a statement posted on Twitter on Thursday night, Romney described Soleimani as a “depraved terrorist who had the blood of hundreds of American servicemen and women on his hands, and who was doubtlessly planning operations to further harm our citizens and allies.”

“We remember and honor the sacrifice of those servicemen and women, and we commend our brave troops and intel officers who carried out this successful mission,” Romney said in his statement. “At this time of increased tension in the region, the U.S. must take necessary steps to protect our personnel there and beyond.”

The Utah senator is the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism, which deals with U.S. relations with countries in the Middle East.

Utah’s only Democrat in Congress, Rep. Ben McAdams, said no one is mourning the death of Soleimani.

“I think I feel the same sense of outrage that we all do and certainly he deserved consequences,” he said on KSL Newsradio.

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Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:

“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."

Phew. It didn't say 'assassinate', either. Saved by the loopholes! What other fun loophole games can we play? I wonder how we can cram ethnic WASP racism into context, too! Ajax, why don't you fire up your Maxine Waters persona again, you wonderful example of Latter-day Saint refinement.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
ajax18 wrote:The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."

Phew. It didn't say 'assassinate', either. Saved by the loopholes! What other fun loophole games can we play? I wonder how we can cram ethnic WASP racism into context, too! Ajax, why don't you fire up your Maxine Waters persona again, you wonderful example of Latter-day Saint refinement.

- Doc

Docs got it all figured out everyone. Shut your bibles.

Im sure he keeps ever proscription he would demand you keep as well. He has never lusted after a woman not his wife. He gave all his money to the poor and follows Christ as a wandering mendicant. He of course is an extreme pacifist.

You see every other christian throughout history has been wrong. Docs interpretation of the Bible is the divine truth!

The Bible means whatever you want it to. that's why aquinuses philosohy, which has immemorilzed his name, was the just war doctrine, and righteous indignation.

Captain Moroni was a warrior! As were most Mormon prophets! Yet somehow “thou shalt not kill” made these men “whom if all men were like the very gates of hell would tremble” sinners because doc says so.

Ajax was 100% right. So was Mittens.
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I have a question wrote:Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:

“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.

You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted BS lazy people use.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
I have a question wrote:Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:
“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.

You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

I was duped when i was younger into that kind of thinking i watched the hollywood portrayals of Christ, and read the Mormon prophets some of whom were exteme pacifists.

One urged his daughters to die rather than allow themselves to be raped. Another said his son was spared from war because of the righteousness of the saints even though he had been conscripted he never saw battle. Even joseph smith said any spirit that lusts after blood isn't of god.

But then i read pope pious urging for the crusade! You know what he said? 1,000 of christians are being killed at the hands of mohomadan incursions. What does it mean to love your neighbor if not to stop these horrific attacks and return christian peace!

And at some point i realized i was the only idiot trying to “live my religion” and that it really means whatver your conciounce will allow it to mean.

Most of these “arbiters of the law” didn't live up to half of what they demanded we bear.

And the worst were the antis who hold the worst double standards. They hold your feet to the fire as a christian with their overly onerous interpretations then hypocritcally say “I would never follow any of that stupid nonsense!”

Mathew 23.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

Yup.

But the play-doh approach is only applied when deciding questions that affect their own lives: "Well, so long as I pay a tithe on the kick-back I got for approving that building even though it didn't pass fire safety regulations, my bishop will still give me a temple recommend. So that's OK with The Lord."

When it's a question of deciding what other people should be made to do, the play-doh suddenly sets into steel-reinforced concrete: "If you have a miscarriage, you'll go to jail for murdering an embryo. That's The Lord's way!"
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iwanttotalk wrote:Captain Moroni was a warrior!

#DezNat

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Chap wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

Yup.

But the play-doh approach is only applied when deciding questions that affect their own lives: "Well, so long as I pay a tithe on the kick-back I got for approving that building even though it didn't pass fire safety regulations, my bishop will still give me a temple recommend. So that's OK with The Lord."

When it's a question of deciding what other people should be made to do, the play-doh suddenly sets into steel-reinforced concrete: "If you have a miscarriage, you'll go to jail for murdering an embryo. That's The Lord's way!"

Heh. No doubt.
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iwanttotalk wrote:I was duped when i was younger into that kind of thinking i watched the hollywood portrayals of Christ, and read the Mormon prophets some of whom were exteme pacifists.

You're a liar. It's what you think now that you were duped into (assuming the nonsense you've been posting is what you really think).
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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