Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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Re: Louis Midgley Threatens to "Pay a Visit" to Gina Colvin

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Dr LOD wrote:Maybe DCP is tipping his hand with this comment and showing more of his true nature which is likely closer to what Midgley exhibits daily on SeN.

Dr. LOD:

By any chance are you familiar with a now-defunct Mopologetic organization called "SHIELDS"? It's a shell of its former self, but there is still a lot of valuable historical material there. To be honest, I'm surprised that DCP et al. have not bullied them into shutting down the site, but it's to our benefit, because it's actually quite the hilarious repository of their most embarrassing antics. Check this out, for example:

http://www.shields-research.org/Authors/AUTHORS.html#P

Here you can see all kinds of wacky stuff, including lengthy email exchanges that the Mopologists have had with a whole range of people, including, e.g., James White. (They put "Dr." in quotation marks, just like they do to you on "SeN.") Very little has changed in the 20+ years since those exchanges took place. But just take a look at this comment from Dan Peterson, who seems to think that he's offering up a sharp "zinger" of a retort to someone that seems to be a teenager:

Daniel Peterson wrote:Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:54:56 -0700
From: Daniel Peterson <dcp6@email.BYU.edu>
Subject: SKINNY: Re: greetings
To: Matt Scott <mattscott8@hotmail.com>
Cc: Skinny-L <SKINNY-L@teleport.com>

Matt:

Does your Mom know what kind of messages you are sending out over the family computer?

Daniel Peterson

And for the sake of historical interest: take note of the fact that "SKINNY-L@teleport.com" is CC'ed on this message. This is the notorious "Skinny-L" list that the SHIELDS Mopologists used to use to gang up on critics, exchange gossip, and plot out new attacks. If I am not mistaken, it was used to plan Midgley's aggressive "visit" to Sandra Tanner's bookstore (and the incident is documented, from the apologists' perspective, in quite a lot of detail, right there on SHIELDS).
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Doctor Scratch wrote:And for the sake of historical interest: take note of the fact that "SKINNY-L@teleport.com" is ...

I googled BYU SKINNY-L in hopes of finding some dieting tips involving stereoisomers. No such luck, but I did find this article that may interest you.

https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/1998/04/29/the-strange-saga-of-the-byu-correspondenceaka-nastigrams-r-us/
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moksha wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:And for the sake of historical interest: take note of the fact that "SKINNY-L@teleport.com" is ...

I googled BYU SKINNY-L in hopes of finding some dieting tips involving stereoisomers. No such luck, but I did find this article that may interest you.

https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/1998/04/29/the-strange-saga-of-the-byu-correspondenceaka-nastigrams-r-us/


I think that was the cold open for an episode of Saturday Night Live.
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Res Ipsa wrote:I think that was the cold open for an episode of Saturday Night Live.

Stereoisomer humor is big on the organic chemistry circuit.
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New material from Midgley:

Louis Midgley wrote:I believe that Professor Peterson has warned Moksha to not bring his usual stupid, evil, mindless rubbish from that sewer of a board operated by a fake doctor, but dominated by another fake doctor who boasts of holding a Chair of Mopologetic Studies at Cassius University yet. If anyone doubts what I say about Jason's Mormon Discussions, they can have a look at some total rubbish entitled "Louis Midgley threatens to 'Pay a Visit' to Gina Colvin." The only sane comment is by real [deleted], who posts as Kishy, and who sometimes urges the rabble to calm down and back off a bit, and who has to know that he is posting in an open sewer.

I must also point out that I have praised Gina Colvin's contribution to an essay by her and Hana Espie Tukukino on Henare Potae, a very gifted Maori Anglican who immediately became a faithful Latter-day Saint when he met our missionaries and heard their message.

Gina's becoming an Anglican is a bit ironic, since it was the later Anglican support for the theft of Maori land that helped opened the door for our missionaries in 1882. Earlier it has been the truly remarkable work of Anglican missionaries in the Bay of Islands that fixed the orthography of the Maori language, published the Bible in Maori, and taught the Maori to read it in their own language.


Interestingly, the Reverend's remark on Midgley included the following:

Kishkumen wrote:Well, she knows who Lou is and I doubt she is at all concerned. She knows he is kind of an unpleasant weirdo. This thread, at least to my understanding, is more about the wisdom, or lack thereof, of allowing unpleasant weirdos to act as defenders of the Church’s “honor.” The whole thing is creepy, unprofessional, and wholly inappropriate, and yet there he goes, acting up as he is wont to do, with seeming impunity.
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I must also point out that I have praised Gina Colvin's contribution to an essay by her and Hana Espie Tukukino on Henare Potae, a very gifted Maori Anglican who immediately became a faithful Latter-day Saint when he met our missionaries and heard their message.

Gina's becoming an Anglican is a bit ironic, since it was the later Anglican support for the theft of Maori land that helped opened the door for our missionaries in 1882. Earlier it has been the truly remarkable work of Anglican missionaries in the Bay of Islands that fixed the orthography of the Maori language, published the Bible in Maori, and taught the Maori to read it in their own language.


Those are noteworthy and substantive comments.
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Kishkumen wrote:
I must also point out that I have praised Gina Colvin's contribution to an essay by her and Hana Espie Tukukino on Henare Potae, a very gifted Maori Anglican who immediately became a faithful Latter-day Saint when he met our missionaries and heard their message.

Gina's becoming an Anglican is a bit ironic, since it was the later Anglican support for the theft of Maori land that helped opened the door for our missionaries in 1882. Earlier it has been the truly remarkable work of Anglican missionaries in the Bay of Islands that fixed the orthography of the Maori language, published the Bible in Maori, and taught the Maori to read it in their own language.

Those are noteworthy and substantive comments.

Agreed. Who wrote this and where did Midgley go?
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Hana Espie Tukukino on Henare Potae, a very gifted Maori Anglican who immediately became a faithful Latter-day Saint

Predictable, since the Anglican became LDS.
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Gadianton wrote:
Hana Espie Tukukino on Henare Potae, a very gifted Maori Anglican who immediately became a faithful Latter-day Saint

Predictable, since the Anglican became LDS.

Yep.
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Dr. Midgley was rather unkind to my Amino Acids on the Roof lyrics, but it did make for an unusual shout out to this thread. I think he liked what Kishkumen had to say.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2020/01/deep-time-and-the-gospel.html#disqus_thread
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