iwanttotalk wrote:This place has all the hallmarks of a cult. Its a trip.
Really? And who would the charismatic leader be?
It's always fun to be accused of being in a cult by someone who's in a cult. Good times.
DARVO
MissTish wrote:
iwanttotalk wrote:This thread is filled with Classic Abuser fallbacks
DARVO: Deny, Attack and Reverse Victim and Offender' work best together.
Gaslight: accuse the person of not knowing the difference between real and fake
Dogpile: attack and marginlize anyone who does not submit to group hierachy and thought.
This place has all the hallmarks of a cult. Its a trip.
More projection in this post than in the local cineplex
Gaslight
Perfume on my Mind wrote:
Gunnar wrote:I tend to be with you on this. For ajax to claim to hold the views he does, given the readily available evidence, he has to be, at the very least dishonest (at least with himself), if he possesses any degree of rationality.
I have to admit that ajax is a puzzle to me. I have a bit of a fascination with his case. I only say this because I haven't chosen to dismiss him completely, like I have others around here. I suppose I have an irrational suspicion he can be cured.
iwanttotalk wrote:This thread is filled with Classic Abuser fallbacks
DARVO: Deny, Attack and Reverse Victim and Offender' work best together.
Gaslight: accuse the person of not knowing the difference between real and fake
Dogpile: attack and marginlize anyone who does not submit to group hierachy and thought.
This place has all the hallmarks of a cult. Its a trip.
More projection in this post than in the local cineplex
Exactly!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Chap wrote:People keep things in compartments. Ajax18 would not prescribe for a patient without assuring himself that there were solid factual and scientific grounds for choosing a particular course of action, but politics and religion? Naah, there the gut rules, not the bits of the brain that do rationality.
Remember that there are highly trained and competent scientists who still believe in the Book of Mormon, the Koran, the Bible, and a lot of other stuff whose factual basis is, shall we say, debatable.
Yes, I realize all that, and that ajax18 may be a prime example of what you are talking about...
Perfume on my Mind wrote:With all due respect to what Chap said (which is unequivocally true in most contexts), I really don't think we can assume ajax is one of those cases. Unless we know the quality of his doctoring, we're left wondering whether he's competent or not.
His posts, therefore, are not encouraging.
After reading you response above, I changed my post as underlined. I agree we have no way of knowing how competent he really is or how well "the bits of his brain that do rationality" are really working for him and his patients.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Perfume on my Mind wrote:It's starting to feel like this guy is just acting like a braid dead Trumpster. Every post is self-parody.
If he's serious, he's an idiot. If he's messing with us, he's a troll.
What does having a dead "braid" have to do with it?
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
I suppose I have an irrational suspicion he can be cured.
Through the methods of Kyle Jurek and Joseph Stalin I presume.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
I suppose I have an irrational suspicion he can be cured.
Through the methods of Kyle Jurek and Joseph Stalin I presume.
I expect that it would be at least as hard to cure you as to cure a flat earther.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
I suppose I have an irrational suspicion he can be cured.
Through the methods of Kyle Jurek and Joseph Stalin I presume.
Don't worry about that. If we competently and successfully use such methods, you will never realize that we did.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
