Shut the “F” Up, Hillary

[_Some Schmo]

by the way, do you think swear words some how make your argument stronger? A real question.

No. I just like to damned swear. It makes me happy.

I gave you a link where Biden admitted to a Quid pro quo with goverment money for the firing of a foriegn prosecutor that was looking into a company that his son had worked for, with absolutely no experience and was paid 83.3333 k a month.

Should this be ignored?

Why do you think I have been? You're like a puppy with a squirrel, easily distracted away from what's important. The Biden thing has been debunked. If you care about Biden, you are a partisan damned hack who wants a reason to ignore Trump's corruption.

I guess you didn't answer my question about what media sources you consume because it's likely all right-wing damned nonsense. You certainly talk like it is.

[_MissTish]

Markk recommended a book by Peter Schweizer here in the thread. Schweizer also wrote Clinton Cash. He's an editor at large for Breitbart, and on the Mercer payroll. Here's a look at his role in spreading the story:

THE INVENTION OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORY ON BIDEN AND UKRAINE
How a conservative dark-money group that targeted Hillary Clinton in 2016 spread the discredited story that may lead to Donald Trump’s impeachment.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... nd-ukraine

[_Markk]

What do THOSE links and "just Google it" have to do with THESE claims?

1) Obama did what Trump is accused of, on camera?

2) Hillary did what Trump is accused of while SoS, and when called out said .."too Bad."

3) Biden did what Trump is accused of on the record, and called the person he strong armed a SOB, on the record. .

4) Warren lies over and over and over...

So, again, you make claims and daftly fumble around with some sort of whataboutism, but you don't provide sourced quotes that back up your claim, especially so in any sort CONTEXT to the ongoing conversation.

____ goldfish.

- Doc

LOL...are you kidding me...

Again lets deal with the Biden video first...please try to focus and take off you blue colored glasses.

Trump is accused of a quid pro quo, "a favor for a favor" to benefit him personally. Did you watch and listen to the video?

His son was being paid 83K a month by a energy company to sit on the board, in which he knew nothing about the industry, and later admitted he "probably" got the job because his name. Then when the company was being investigated for corruption, the VP withheld goverment funds until he was fired.

The Democrats are accusing Trump of the same thing and impeached him for looking into this, and accuse him of doing so for political reasons.

In the video Biden said he visited the Ukraine
https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-b ... E81D8.html over a dozen times, and spear headed Obama's policy on the Ukraine...I would think this would get the same scrutiny that was given to Trump...especially in light his quid pro quo is undeniable.

It's funny how when you are called out on your bias' you run and just start talking about me to others instead of actually answering and dealing with my questions...ironically even accusing me of not backing up my assertions when you were just to lazy to open the link.

But moving forward, the Trump impeachment, the accusations by the house mangers revolve around the Biden's and their involvement with the Ukraine. It is at the very center of what is going on doc.

There is not a doubt that Hunter was a used for his connection to his father, there is absolutely no other reason for his getting this position. Here is a interesting quote from the book I recommended in this thread.

"As previously noted in Secret Empires, on April 16, 2014, Devon Archer made a private visit to the White House for a meeting with Joe Biden. The day prior, Burisma had deposited more than $112,000 into a Rosemont bank account marked “C/O Devon Archer.” Six days later, on April 22, it was announced that Archer was joining the board of directors of Burisma. In short succession, on May 13, it was announced that Hunter Biden would join the Burisma board, too. Neither one had any background or experience in the energy sector, or in Ukraine for that matter.(76)

We now know based on financial records that each man appears to have been paid $83,333.33 per month by Burisma, or a total of $1 million a year.(77)"

76.  U.S.A. v. Galanis et al., Case No. 1:16-cr-00371, United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, Rosemont Seneca Bohai account statements from Morgan Stanley Private Wealth Management, Gx301; Schweizer, Secret Empires, pp. 60–61.

77.  U.S.A. v. Galanis et al., Case No. 1:16-cr-00371, United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, Rosemont Seneca Bohai account statements from Morgan Stanley Private Wealth Management, Gx301.


Further...."The timing of their appointment to the Burisma board and the payments is more than interesting. The day before Archer’s official appointment, on April 21, Vice President Biden landed in Kyiv for meetings with Ukrainian officials, bringing with him terms for a United States Agency for International Development (USAID) program to assist the Ukrainian natural gas industry.(78)"

78.  “Fact Sheet: U.S. Crisis Support Package for Ukraine,” White House Office of the Press Secretary, April 21, 2014, https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/th ... e-ukraine; J. C. Finley, “Vice President Biden arrives in Kiev,” United Press International, April 21, 2014, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/ ... 398098183/.

Schweizer, Peter. Profiles in Corruption (p. 61, end notes p.270-271). Harper. Kindle Edition.

This is just the tip of the iceberg on Bidens corruption, and given the video I linked, and this documented back up of Joe's connection, there is certainly evidence of a quid pro quo, which is what Trump is accused of. Maybe they are both guilty, maybe the are both innocent, but without a doubt, Joe's quid pro quo is undeniable and on record for anyone with a open mind to see.

[_Doctor Steuss]

How is Ivanka tied to ZTE...is there I direct connection? I googled it and couldn't find a direct connection? What I read is that this happened 2 years ago, is there a more "recent" direct link I am missing?

Thanks

Ivanka isn’t tied to ZTE.

[_Markk]

Markk recommended a book by Peter Schweizer here in the thread. Schweizer also wrote Clinton Cash. He's an editor at large for Breitbart, and on the Mercer payroll. Here's a look at his role in spreading the story:

THE INVENTION OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORY ON BIDEN AND UKRAINE
How a conservative dark-money group that targeted Hillary Clinton in 2016 spread the discredited story that may lead to Donald Trump’s impeachment.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... nd-ukraine

LOL and your article is written by a person for the New Yorker...and???? How about you read both and then form your opinion, or have you been told by the prophet not to test the truth.

One thing I learned from 34 years,being born and raised in the church, is that it is okay to test everything...and then,right or wrong, form my position and ideology.

Have you read the book I recommended, or do you just buy the New yorker article?
The article you linked reads....

(In July, The New Yorker published a piece about the relationship between Joe and Hunter Biden that dismissed allegations of any illegality in the Ukraine matter but included some concerns from Obama Administration officials that Hunter could potentially undermine his father’s work.)

Who dismissed the allegations...the left leaning New Yorker? I need find that article.

Read my quote from the book above and let me know why there is not a concern with that? One camp says that th prosecutor was not investigating Burisma enough, while the prosecutor claimed he was told to stand down becasue he wanted to prosecute it...this reaps of corruption and given the real facts that Joe is in the middle of it, this is much larger than anything Trump is accused of ...and in reality there is a argument that Trump should investigate this.

This is like a script fro House of Cards.

[_Markk]

How is Ivanka tied to ZTE...is there I direct connection? I googled it and couldn't find a direct connection? What I read is that this happened 2 years ago, is there a more "recent" direct link I am missing?

Thanks

Ivanka isn’t tied to ZTE.

So why is this a issue, is it illegal, or IYO unethical, I'm trying to understand you assertion? The trademarks I read about were for things like baby clothes?

Thanks

[_Markk]

No. I just like to ____ swear. It makes me happy.

LOL...okay, that is why I love ya

I gave you a link where Biden admitted to a Quid pro quo with goverment money for the firing of a foriegn prosecutor that was looking into a company that his son had worked for, with absolutely no experience and was paid 83.3333 k a month.

Schmo wrote...Why do you think I have been? You're like a puppy with a squirrel, easily distracted away from what's important. The Biden thing has been debunked. If you care about Biden, you are a partisan ____ hack who wants a reason to ignore Trump's corruption.

I guess you didn't answer my question about what media sources you consume because it's likely all right-wing ____ nonsense. You certainly talk like it is.

Huh...by whom, Biden is as dirty as they come and his family ( sons, brother sister) has gotten rich from him.

As far as who I read and listen to is a broad mix...I live in La La land, and if you think I do not listen to left wing news your nuts, I listen to Bill Handel most mornings, along with Dan Patrick, (more than Hannity and Rush combined), and there might not be a bigger Trump hater than Handel ( lol except for you). I watch Fox during times like this, but also check in on CNN and CNBC...Lately I have been watching Spectrum News, mostly becasue it is a default setting that comes on automatically when I turn on the tube, which is LA based, and mostly left, but is still somewhat objective, and I get local stuff I don't get on the big three.

Honestly though in my shop when I work, I have my TV on METV, and Inspiration TV most of the time, and watch (listen mostly) Bonanza, Gunsmoke, the Virginian and The Big Valley...LOL...Nick Barkley is my hero.

The homeless issue is huge down here, and very important to me, and I try to tune into any station that covers it.



https://kfiam640.iheart.com/featured/bill-handel/

Who do you listen/watch too?

[_Doctor Steuss]

So why is this a issue, is it illegal, or IYO unethical, I'm trying to understand you assertion? The trademarks I read about were for things like baby clothes?

Thanks

ZTE had been in trouble for a while, and the US hadn't so much as hinted that it might offer help. Ivanka had a batch of patents granted uncommonly fast, and a few days later, Trump catches most people off guard by suddenly saying he will help ZTE.

Sure, they very well have been coincidental. The patents may have been fast-tracked for a reason unrelated to currying favor. But when looked at a whole, especially in light of Trump's own patents, it's just a small piece of a much larger problem/trend that has been an aspect of the current administration from before the election even took place.

Trump is profiting off the Presidency. His family is profiting off the Presidency. Some of those profits are coming directly or indirectly from foreign governments and entities. Be it from the ~$20 Mil that has been funneled through his campaign into his properties, direct spending on things like empty rooms at his resorts, or bits from the ~$1.5 Bil that has made its way through just the registered foreign agents since 2017, he has unabashedly used his position to line the pockets of himself and those who show him fealty. The man used the Presidential tradition of challenge coins to market his commercial properties, for goodness' sake.

[_Markk]

One difference I see is that Trump, and Bloomberg if he somehow got in, if he was not president, he would be doing much more, and making more...I am not sure overall it can ever be determined Trump is in it for the money...he has maybe 10 productive years at the very most left in this world and in my opinion it is about power plain and simple. I really want to believe he cares, and I think he does...but his ego is huge and it takes a lot of feeding.

I get that he will bank on this when he leaves, but I am not sure if he will ever recoup 4-8 years of real estate investments lost.

Edit...I heard one of his sons say something on the radio the other day, I think it was in regards to the Biden's...I am paraphrasing but he basically said that while most politicians get rich and get into business's BECAUSE of politics, the Trump's have had to curtail and scale back...and there is truth in that.

[_Markk]

He resists guidance.

What..LOL, because I am not a clone like you and many here. You are without a doubt the most wishy washy person on this board, in my opinion, constantly needing to be told what you believe....what guidance can you possibly give me in regards to discussion on what I believe and why I believe it. You just get flustered, like Doc, when folks oppose your predetermined ideologies that are accepted as truth by the clones here, after they tell you what to believe, again in my opinion.

I can give you guidance all day long you wont take, like leading you away from the most overrated Rock and Roll group ever, the stones are horribly overrated in regards to music...in my opinion they are like the grateful dead, pop icons who were in the right place at the right time. I think if you rated them honestly, they would be somewhere between the Shaggs and Perfume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR9d4ESlpHY

Sorry I just like to see you pop blood vessels.

Love ya