Shut the “F” Up, Hillary

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_Markk
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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Some Schmo wrote:Republicans don't govern. They don't ever pretend. They believe they exist and must assume power to make sure nobody is running the show. They are a placeholder for real leadership.

And of course, they are a bunch of useless, spineless ____ ups. A real leader would convince their party, Hey, maybe we shouldn't put up with a moron for President and not capitulate to the ignorance of their base.


LOL, and your option put in a leader that will let a nine year old pick her cabinet member? LOL...I hope you read that story


https://www.dailywire.com/news/warren-m ... rans-child

Now there's a leader for you....
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Re: Shut the “F” Up, Hillary

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Shut the “F” Up, Hillary

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Markk,

Setting aside the fact you apparently don't know the difference between a developer and builder which is shocking given your profession, please articulate Trump's goal. Unless you meant "drain the swamp" is his goal?
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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Markk wrote:How is putting all those restrictions, jailing folks, giving 48% of all major corporations to the workers, not dismantling the status quo of corporations or even large privately owned companies?


I’ll type more slowly this time:

Stating a generalized goal as a candidate does not translate into reality post- election (see: Trump, Donald; w/regard to mproving trade deficits, reducing our debt or practicing fiscal responsibility, classifying China as a currency manipulator, replacing Obamacare with “something better”, achieving consistent GDP growth of 3% or better, etc.). See my two previous posts (and answer my question about breaking up “too big to fail” banks).

But let’s discuss:

1. How does removing corrupt corporate players, if they indeed needed to be jailed, destroy a company? And why would you see that as a bad thing?

2. Why do you seem to think that anti-trust actions have never existed previous to this election? What happened when ATT was broken up? Did America fall behind on telephone technology and investors lose their chance to be part of the telecom industry afterwards?

3. How would Sanders - if he’s your example - ‘destroy’ a company through some of his inclusiveness proposals?

Don’t you work within an industry that operates on razor-thin margins? Haven’t you ever seen companies that undergo reorganization through bankruptcy, even? You act as if anything that Sanders has said somehow restricts a company from being profitable when far worse situations don’t have that effect on many companies, or already occur more often.

Seriously, use McDermott International as an example - a company almost 100 years old that is currently restructuring through Chapter 11 bankruptcy to deal with almost 10 billion dollars in debt. Even with that, they’re not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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canpakes wrote:...well thought out post that markk will completely ignore because he is incapable of reading or any form of self awareness...


Ill post the same thing here that I posted to Kish in the telestial forum regarding interacting with markk:

"Kish, you are trying to have a conversation with someone who can't even differentiate between anecdote and data. If markk believes something, then that is the only "reality" he is capable of addressing regardless of how many times you prove him wrong or explain how his beliefs are grounded in ignorance. Its like talking to a believing Mormon - easier to just to pat him on the shoulder and say "yes, that's great that you believe that" and move on to chatting with someone more connected with reality and capable of at least a little introspection. My favorite, though, is when he tried to paint himself as a "minority" who understands persecution...lol. "

Canpakes, You are trying to have a conversation with someone who, within one page of this thread, argued that warren and sanders are bad because wall street likes the status quo and then he immediately turned around and argued that Trump is effective because he broke the status quo. He is mentally incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation and is obviously so massively ignorant when it comes to basic economics and corporate finance that I question whether he is even capable of balancing his own checkbook. He is literally incapable of linear thought or even coming to reasonable conclusions based on data (or reality for that matter).

I also like that he obviously doesn't read any of the articles he posts in to the various threads he participates in as none of them say anything related to the points he, laughably, thinks he is making. Trump definitely panders to the uneducated.

Cam has him pegged, goldfish....

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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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Honorentheos, I am stunned by this cynicism.

I see no reason not to think Mr Ryan is accepting a side step on his way toward the larger more valued goal of minimal government. Balanced budget is just a possible step on that hoped for path to his goal (see Atlas Shrugged) The present move of increasing the debt increases pressure to decrease government programs which cost money and stand in the way of his goals.

Without the political processes of power accumulation, getting elected, collecting areas of agreement among political powers, and compromise no programs or policies happen. These give our political parties the necessary internal diversity and mutual overlap that allows our form of government to function.
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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huckelberry wrote:The present move of increasing the debt increases pressure to decrease government programs which cost money and stand in the way of his goals.


Lol. That’s funny. That’s some real 4d chess galaxy-brained “strategy” right there.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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schreech wrote:Kish, you are trying to have a conversation with someone who can't even differentiate between anecdote and data. If markk believes something, then that is the only "reality" he is capable of addressing regardless of how many times you prove him wrong or explain how his beliefs are grounded in ignorance.

Markk, I hate to tell you this, buddy, but this is a pretty spot on analysis. Reading your posts are bewildering, in the sense that it's unimaginable how someone could come to the bizarre conclusions you seem to willingly invite. You're on BS like a moth on a flame... or like a fly on BS.

I mean, just think about the proportionality of the corruption you're accusing Biden of, compared to the actual corruption Trump engages in every day. You think we should be wary of Biden when you can't damned see the magnificent crap show that is Trump? Do you really consider yourself a credible witness here?

Sorry, but every damned GOP argument about the fitness of anyone if damned hallow. You people are no judge of character, and you're in no position to judge. You lost all credibility with Trump.
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
huckelberry wrote:The present move of increasing the debt increases pressure to decrease government programs which cost money and stand in the way of his goals.


Lol. That’s funny. That’s some real 4d chess galaxy-brained “strategy” right there.

- Doc


4d chess? I am puzzled, I thought sure it was intermediate checkers.

Is there some impression I favor Ryan's goal or strategy? I do not. I have read he is a fan of Ayn Rand. I am not.
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Re: Shut the ____ Up, Hillary

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honorentheos wrote:Markk,

Setting aside the fact you apparently don't know the difference between a developer and builder which is shocking given your profession, please articulate Trump's goal. Unless you meant "drain the swamp" is his goal?



LOL...you have no idea what you are saying...

I own buildings. I'm a builder; I know how to build. Nobody can build like I can build. Nobody. And the builders in New York will tell you that. I build the best product. And my name helps a lot.

Donald Trump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaXLrA_Lmf4


His goal is to make "America great again", based on his opinion of what a great America is, and his promises which he is trying to do...do you want me to state some of these goals?
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