ajax18 wrote:Onw wonders why people enter congessional office as commoners and leave as billionaires. Yet we keep asking for the tax returns of someone who entered Wasington as a billionaire and refused a salary.
Which people are those? Can you name some, with supporting evidence of their assets before and after service as congress critters?
How much money has Trump earned since he became president by staying at properties he owns and charging his entourage to stay there? How does that compare with the salary as President?
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ajax18 wrote:Onw wonders why people enter congessional office as commoners and leave as billionaires. Yet we keep asking for the tax returns of someone who entered Wasington as a billionaire and refused a salary.
Which people are those? Can you name some, with supporting evidence of their assets before and after service as congress critters?
How much money has Trump earned since he became president by staying at properties he owns and charging his entourage to stay there? How does that compare with the salary as President?
Since his election, Trump has funneled over 130 million dollars of taxpayer money, to his own resorts and properties, just from his own golfing and time away from the White House.
Apparently, that sort of family enrichment at the hands of taxpayers is OK, because Trump was “already rich”.
Can you name some, with supporting evidence of their assets before and after service as congress critters?
Joe Biden is a good example. He claims he came from a working class family. Due to his position as vice president, we know Hunter was being paid $50k/month to sit on a board for a Ukrainian company called Burisma. He's done similar things for his other children. But this is the status quo in Washington. It's expected.
Bill Clinton never did work a actual job. But he and Hillary were earning $250K sometimes just to give an hour speech. There daughter Chelsea was getting paid around $600k/year for part time work at MSNBC.
Harry Reid came into Congress a commoner. He claims he invested well. His position certainly worked out well for his grandchild's business.
Maxine Waters actually used her status on the TARP committee to divert taxpayer funds into her husband's bank.
A better question would be, who didn't enrich themselves from lobbying groups while serving in Congress or in the presidential cabinet.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
DJTJ went to Penn, where lo and behold daddy pledged millions to the school (same thing for all the Trumpkins). He graduated aaaaand was a bartender. He went from being a bartender to “supervising” some of dad’s building projects (because bartending after being a fratboy at Penn is the perfect segue into construction projects manager). He managed Trump Mortgage which folded in 18 months. He was an apprentice on dad’s show The Apprentice. He liaised with Russians, which I’m not rehashing. He ‘wrote’ a book that got on a best seller list only because the RNC bought a lot of copies. And now he’s doing whatever for Trump in some weird capacity at the highest echelons of the American GOVERNMENT.
And Ajax damned 1-Adolf 8-Hitler is wrapped around the axle on Biden? He has a literal example of privilege and connection staring him in the face, and this damned galaxy brain is worried about a 5th place candidate in the DNC primaries/caucuses? He has dozens of easily searchable examples of the Trump's using the office of the Presidency for personal gain and he’s worried about a BoD gig for Biden’s son? My Lord the absolute thickness of it all never ceases to amaze me.
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ajax18 wrote:Bill Clinton never did work a actual job. But he and Hillary were earning $250K sometimes just to give an hour speech. There daughter Chelsea was getting paid around $600k/year for part time work at MSNBC.
Trump earned 214 million dollars from his stint on The Apprentice.
I’m not sure if you are just (1) angry that the free market spends its cash on what it wants but that you aren’t getting that cash, or if you are (2) angry that sometimes people earn cash within industries that you believe they really don’t deserve to earn from. Either way, you proudly support the worst example from either option.
ajax18 wrote:Onw wonders why people enter congessional office as commoners and leave as billionaires. Yet we keep asking for the tax returns of someone who entered Wasington as a billionaire and refused a salary.
Why Would a Billionaire Charge the Secret Service $650 a Night?
Six theories for why Donald Trump insists on billing taxpayers
Are you ok with this? You want food taken away from elderly disabled people because you're so miserly that you don't want to pay the $0.56 in taxes per week it costs you, so think carefully about your answer.
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Can you name some, with supporting evidence of their assets before and after service as congress critters?
Joe Biden is a good example. He claims he came from a working class family. Due to his position as vice president, we know Hunter was being paid $50k/month to sit on a board for a Ukrainian company called Burisma. He's done similar things for his other children. But this is the status quo in Washington. It's expected.
Bill Clinton never did work a actual job. But he and Hillary were earning $250K sometimes just to give an hour speech. There daughter Chelsea was getting paid around $600k/year for part time work at MSNBC.
Harry Reid came into Congress a commoner. He claims he invested well. His position certainly worked out well for his grandchild's business.
Maxine Waters actually used her status on the TARP committee to divert taxpayer funds into her husband's bank.
A better question would be, who didn't enrich themselves from lobbying groups while serving in Congress or in the presidential cabinet.
So, the answer is no.
Here's Forbes' real time list of billionaires. Are any of the people you mentioned on it?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
ajax18 wrote:Onw wonders why people enter congessional office as commoners and leave as billionaires. Yet we keep asking for the tax returns of someone who entered Wasington as a billionaire and refused a salary.
Why Would a Billionaire Charge the Secret Service $650 a Night?
Six theories for why Donald Trump insists on billing taxpayers
Are you ok with this? You want food taken away from elderly disabled people because you're so miserly that you don't want to pay the $0.56 in taxes per week it costs you, so think carefully about your answer.
I'm not really sure that Mike Pence's stay on the West Coast of Ireland while his business was on the East Coast had nothing to do with lining Trump's pockets...
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MissTish wrote:You want food taken away from elderly disabled people because you're so miserly that you don't want to pay the $0.56 in taxes per week it costs you, so think carefully about your answer.
You are speaking of the schadenfreude which is at the very heart of conservatism.
The exorbitant rates the American taxpayers are forking over to Trump are meaningless unless it triggers this sense of schadenfreude for conservatives.