Nevada Primary

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Re: Nevada Primary

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Res Ipsa wrote:The moderators are the primary problem. Almost every question was a “gotcha” question.

The moderators went after Bloomberg on the first question. It is almost like they were trying to resurrect George McGovern for Trump to knock off in November.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:They're forced to behave like toddlers all tugging on mom and dad's clothing for attention. We should be embarrassed by the way this is being handled.

But isn't it highly entertaining?


No. It was a complete FUBAR. Embarrassing. Bloomberg got his ass handed to him. I suppose that's something.
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Re: Nevada Primary

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Dr Exiled wrote:Where is the proof of the Russia conspiracy? Sour grapes. Interview Assange already and see what his proof is. He claims he didn't get the clinton emails from a state actor but what does that matter, right? The silly narrative must be preserved, even if it helps Trump.


If you want proof, go do some geometry. In the real world we use evidence. And there is tons of evidence that Russia conducted two extensive operations to influence the results of the elections. The evidence appears in the Mueller indictments and in the report of the Senate Intelligence committee.

Assange now said he was offered a pardon if he could provide evidence that it wasn’t Russia who hacked the DNC. Guess who didn’t get a pardon. Your excuses for simply ignoring the evidence are getting thinner and thinner.
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Re: Nevada Primary

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Dr Exiled wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:It’s hilarious to argue that Bernie lost the primary because conspiracy but the Russians had nothing to do with Hillary losing in the general. Bernie lost because he failed to get enough votes in the South. He was dead in the water after Super Tuesday, which anyone who could do math figured out. But the Berners blamed everyone except Sanders.

What you guys have never understood is that the people who are the superdelegates would otherwise be a large percentage of the elected delegates. By creating the superdelegates as a separate category for elected and party officials, delegate spots are opened up for others. If you eliminate the supers, then the percentage of insiders who take delegate spots will rise.


Are you serious that we need representatives of the voters who decide who the representatives should be? How about representatives of the representatives of the representatives? As long as the rich donors are satisfied I guess it all works out fine.


Who do you think picks the delegates for each candidate?
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Re: Nevada Primary

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subgenius wrote:(because confused, compares Democratic candidates from one election year to Republican candidates of a different election year)

subs, the Republican party this year is fielding only orange candidates, therefore representing a far less diverse constituency than any white candidate.
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subgenius wrote:Image

What kind of dope sees that and ignores the meme labeling a bunch of white guys with different labels but instead thinks, "Hell yeah, suck on this libtards!"?

Though to be fair, it IS nice to see subbie treat the Democrats including two women and a gay man as no big deal.
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Re: Nevada Primary

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Dr Exiled wrote:Where is the proof of the Russia conspiracy? Sour grapes. Interview Assange already and see what his proof is. He claims he didn't get the clinton emails from a state actor but what does that matter, right? The silly narrative must be preserved, even if it helps Trump.


If you want proof, go do some geometry. In the real world we use evidence. And there is tons of evidence that Russia conducted two extensive operations to influence the results of the elections. The evidence appears in the Mueller indictments and in the report of the Senate Intelligence committee.

Assange now said he was offered a pardon if he could provide evidence that it wasn’t Russia who hacked the DNC. Guess who didn’t get a pardon. Your excuses for simply ignoring the evidence are getting thinner and thinner.


Whatever, Res, show me some evidence that this supposed Russia, Russia, Ruusia thing actually affected any voters. The actual emails showed how Clinton and Co colluded with the DNC to assure her of the nomination. So, don't look at the emails and kill the supposed messenger? If Russia, assuming it is interfering as you claim, had information to tie Trump with Epstein, would you refuse to believe it because of Russia?
Doesn't this Russia thing look like a smoke screen to protect whatever chances Clinton had post 2016? If the reason and focus of the loss were the Comey about face, that would focus attention on her supposed dirty dealings and harm whatever chances she might have had in the future.

The Establishment wanted her to win and bent over backwards to do so. Trump was supposed to be a sacrificial lamb but enough people hated Clinton to either stay away or vote third party or vote Trump. Russia didn't force Comey to reopen the email investigation at the last minute and that was a big factor in a close race. Clinton lost. Just face it. She lost.

This whole argument sounds like the devil made the population vote for Trump. The Russians spent how much against the hundreds of millions the Clinton campaign spent? Are these Russians the most effective campaigners ever with how their silly masturbation memes spread through out the internet? Let's see, I just looked at one of the memes about how Jesus wants to help me beat it. I'm confused. I somehow now want to vote for Trump? Is that how it supposedly worked?
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Re: Nevada Primary

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Whatever, Ex, show me some evidence that this supposed DNC, DNC, DNC thing actually affected any voters.
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Re: Nevada Primary

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I wasn't really sure what was truly meant by "Bernie Bro" before reading this thread. I'm with you, Res... I'll vote for Bernie of he's the nominee, despite what a lot of his supporters say.

They live in this weird dichotomy: either Clinton was a terrible candidate or the Russians helped Trump win. It's like it's not possible for both things to be true in their mind at the same time.

It's also hilarious to me that someone will say "there was a massive conspiracy against Bernie" and then also claim "the Russians didn't influence me!" It's kind of like claiming you're looking forward to your eternal marriage but the LDS church had no influence over your decisions.
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