Who's More Likely to Beat Donald Trump ????? Hillary or Bernie?

[_The CCC]

We've gone from "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself" to fear everything and everybody.

[_moksha]

So Ajax are you disappointed he will not ban Muslims? How about when he he says he will not really build a wall?

I never thought we had to keep Muslims out specifically. All that really matters to me at this point is that Trump is tougher on terrorism than Hillary Clinton, who presided over Benghazi and then lied about it being incited by some youtube video.

With Trump, we can have full spectrum lying that is not limited to Benghazi.

[_The CCC]

Republican admits that Republicans cut funding to embassy security.
SEE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... 54912.html

[_subgenius]

Republican admits that Republicans cut funding to embassy security.
SEE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... 54912.html

[_honorentheos]

Anyone who thinks a guy who went to the Soviet Union and Cuba during the cold war and advocated for how great they were is going to have an easy time in a general campaign has drank the kool aid. That's not to dismiss him, as I think he'd still win as well. But he'd have a much harder time than his supporters here seem to think.

We're not going to get the chance, but I am very curious about how this would've played out. Almost every single presidential election, the Republicans make a red-scare threat a central part of their negative campaign. Bill Clinton is the only real exception in the modern political era. Democrats, for their part, tend to portray the Republican candidates as either dangerously stupid or dangerously crazy and will go to that template over and over.

Bernie Sanders is the very first example where you can run a red-scare campaign with some real teeth. But Republicans have been doing this for so long, that I'm not sure if it would have an extra-special impact on a real-deal socialist who was uncomfortably friendly to communist nations during the cold war. After all, doesn't the average Fox News viewer think Barack Obama, of all people, is a crypto-Marxist? If they're used to that, would they have anywhere to go from there? Are their "Omg! Marxist!" settings already turned up to 11? To what extent has crying communist (or socialist) dulled the public to caring about it?

I don't know. I'm curious how that would play out.

Another relevant post from four years ago. Was looking for a different thread not on politics but keep getting sucked in to these and finding the conversations timely.

[_honorentheos]

If you follow the yahoo news feed or anything like that, you'll notice that every week there are conservative publications introducing a new scandal or new development in scandal associated with Clinton. And almost all of it is misleading at best and straight lies at worst. This is just fuel for the fire of the strategy against Clinton that seems to work. This is how negative campaigning at its finest works, in fact. You take a character flaw the public will buy into and magnify it with a cloud of doubt. And this is just one avenue of attack that has been relentless against Clinton this entire campaign.

Sanders hasn't had anything like this happen to him. He has vulnerabilities. There's clearly a calculation out there to avoid it.

EA stumbling onto the Russia propaganda campaign before the email leaks... interesting bit of history right there.