Kiwi57 Moksha
6 hours ago
"You wrote about wanting to confront Gina Colvin on a public forum before you even left for New Zealand."
I regret that you have no good faith reason to believe what you assert.
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Moksha Kiwi57
5 hours ago
It is on the forum of her blog Kiwi Mormon here at Patheos.
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Kiwi57 Moksha
5 hours ago
Are you referring to this?
I know of only one Community of Christ congregation in New Zealand. It is located at 311 Glengary Road, Glen Eden, Auckland. A search does not turn up Community of Christ congregation in Christchurch. Would you please explain where this Community of Christ group meets in Christchurch and also how many there are in this group? I will, God willing, be in New Zealand in February, and might drop in to see your new venture, but I will need an address and so forth.
There is no "wanting to confront Gina Colvin" in there.
And no non-haters who imagine that there is.
Are you, perhaps, talking about something else?
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Louis Midgley Kiwi57
an hour ago
Mok-sha is clearly driven by hatred to think that I had any interest in some public confrontation with Gina Colvin. I have, instead, praised an essay in which Gina Colvin was a co-author in which he described an early Anglican Maori who, when he heard the message of Latter-day Saint message, joined the Church of Jesus Christ and helped translate the Book of Mormon into Maori. This fellow was remarkably gifted in both English and te reo Maori. And he provided a very valuable service for building he Kingdom of God in Aotearoa/New Zealand.
Kiwi must be referring to the exchange on Colvin's blog a couple of months ago. Of course, he left out quite a bit:
Louis Midgley
3 months ago
Gina:
I know of only one Community of Christ congregation in New Zealand. It is located at 311 Glengary Road, Glen Eden, Auckland. A search does not turn up Community of Christ congregation in Christchurch. Would you please explain where this Community of Christ group meets in Christchurch and also how many there are in this group? I will, God willing, be in New Zealand in February, and might drop in to see your new venture, but I will need an address and so forth.
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EV Louis Midgley
3 months ago
Hi Gina, I enjoy your blog very much! But please, do not give this person, Louis Midgley, any of the personal information he is requesting. If you take a look at his posting history, almost every comment he makes is either attacking people, or fishing for information, which he then uses, almost always inaccurately, to slur and defame anyone who disagrees with him.
And by attack, I mean some of the most vicious, angry, nasty comments it is possible to make about another human being. I can’t believe his comments are allowed on Patheos, but for some reason, they are. Read through his post history— his incorrect assumptions about other people’s lives lead to slurs and statements of defamation that will shock you.
He loves to tell stories about how he has confronted and tried to embarrass people- when I read he might be visiting your area and wanted to “drop in” on you, my blood ran cold. His intent is NOT good. Please do not give him any information.
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Louis Midgley EV
2 months ago
EV: Utter rubbish.
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EV Louis Midgley
2 months ago edited
Anyone can look at your posting history. You stalk people, you collect little bits of information which you then use to make up disparaging stories about other posters, and you have told many anecdotes about how you collect private information, which you then use to harass people. Now you are asking for an address of this blog owner’s private and unadvertised place of worship, because you would like to “drop in.” Anyone in their right mind will avoid you like the plague.
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Louis Midgley EV
2 months ago edited
EV: I will, God willing, be in Christchurch and will attend a Sacrament meeting. If Gina turn up, fine. I would like to meet her. My point was that, if she is not busy doing her Anglican thing, she only has her former Latter-day Saint Ward in which to worship, since it is likely that she is the only member of the Community of Christ south of Auckland.
Please notice that EV hides her/his identity and this allows them to spout all kinds of rubbish about me.
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EV Louis Midgley
2 months ago edited
LMidgley: “My point was that, if she is not busy doing her Anglican thing, she only has her former Latter-day Saint Ward in which to worship since it is likely that she is the only member of the Community of Christ south of Auckland.”
So your intent was to tell her she has no place to worship, if she doesn’t attend your religion? That’s naïve. It also doesn’t explain your original intrusiveness:
LMidgley: “Would you please explain where this Community of Christ group meets in Christchurch and also how many there are in this group? I will, God willing, be in New Zealand in February, and might drop in to see your new venture, but I will need an address and so forth.”
Why do you need to know how many people are in a congregation? Why do you need an address if your point was only to naïvely and rudely tell her she has no place to worship outside of your religion?
Posters like you are why anonymity is recommended. Your post history speaks for itself. As an example, here is a description of Gina you posted on another religious blog, apparently gleaned from little bits of details you scavenge for, which you then assemble as disparagingly as you can, given you don’t actually know anything:
http://disq.us/p/26bne4c
LM: “ Gina Colvin ceased posting as "Kiwi Mormon" for quite a while, after she faced a DC by her Bishop. But she is back posting again, after having her name removed from the membership records of the Church of Jesus Christ. She was earlier baptized an Anglican and became some sort of lay Anglican preacher, and now she is a member of the Community of Christ. There is a tiny Community of Christ congregation in Auckland, but not even one other member of that sinking ship in Christchurch, where she lives. So Gina Colvin is now the only member of the Community of Christ on the South Island of New Zealand. She has, it seems, found a "community" that fits her desire to enjoy her own "spirituality." “
THAT’S why I recommend that no one give you any personal information, ever. Posters like you, who stalk and disparage, are why anonymity is necessary.
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Louis Midgley EV
2 months ago
On on Professor Daniel C. Peterson's sic et non blog, he wrote in response to EV the following: "Why, GFC, do you feel the need to praise gemli and to disparage Professor Midgley? Is that what involvement with the Malevolent Stalker Hate Board has conditioned you to do?"
So EV was posting as Gemli's Fan Club." For those who have never heard of gemli, he held the record for posting atheist rubbish on the New York Times, until they shut that thing down. Then he joined an atheist blog that soon gave him the boot, and has subsequently posted something like six thousand times on sic et non.
If anonymity is all that necessary, why not urge Gina Colvin to hide her identity? Whoever EV is, he or she is one sick puppy.
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EV Louis Midgley
2 months ago
Wow. Are you responding to me by talking about me in the third person? Are you attempting to be insulting? It reads like something an uneducated person might do, in an attempt to be condescending. And accusing me of being yet another person who dislikes you seems a bit paranoid, don’t you think?!
Your post is quite telling, however. Your garbled story about gemli points out exactly your technique I warned about. Based on your posts, that’s another person you stalked, collecting bits of information, which you have assembled into some garbled story where you attempt to disparage and libel them. You have done this literally dozens upon dozens of times to the poster named gemli, as well as many others. Commenters are well advised to give you no information as your main goal in posting seems to be to stalk and disparage.
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Louis Midgley EV
2 months ago
More rubbish from someone who hides their true identity behind various handles.
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EV Louis Midgley
2 months ago edited
And still, your only explanation for your stalking and disparaging that has been documented using your own words is to attack the person who pointed it out. And you are still using that uneducated third person approach, lol.
Back to my original point, Posters should not give you ANY in real life information, because you will stalk them with made up and hateful versions of it, repeatedly, regardless of the topic. The fact that you went even further this time and asked Gina for the actual address of a congregation she meets with, PLUS how many meet there, is beyond creepy.
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Louis Midgley EV
2 months ago edited
Dear EV: I do not "stalk" anyone. I do call critical attention to rubbish, or fibs.
There is nothing uneducated about responding in the third person. That is merely a matter of personal preference or the current situation.
I did not ask Gina for an address where the Community of Christ worships on Sundays in Christchurch. Instead, I more than hinted that she is the only member of the Community of Christ south of Auckland. What is "creepy" about mentioning that she is likely to be the only member of that sinking ship in Christchurch?
I have exactly no interest in where or when she does her Anglican thing.
Now if Gina Colvin just happens to be in the Ward in which we are planning to attend Sacrament meeting, I would not mind meeting her. But, if we end up in the same sacrament meeting and she does not care to introduce herself, that is fine with me.
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Dr. Shades Louis Midgley
2 months ago
Yes, you do stalk people. You even eavesdrop on personal conversations in which you aren't a part in order to pick out personal details for later use.
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Dr. VelhoBurrinho Louis Midgley
2 months ago
More rubbish from someone who hides their true identity behind various handles.
How about you hiding your true nature behind calling yourself a "Latter-Day Saint?"
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kiwimormo ... qus_thread
Of course, Midgley is disgusted when his own words are used:
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Louis Midgley Kiwi57 • 3 hours ago
I have been following the rubbish being posted on two items on the Sty and everything they are fabricating is false.
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Louis Midgley Kiwi57 • 3 hours ago • edited
Kiwi57 has it exactly right. And those on the Dr. Shades board have fabricated a silly self-serving mythology to support their demonology and irrational hatred.
When Midgley’s words are quoted to show how Midgley posted, how is that fabrication?
And here’s Midgley’s version again, which of course is NOT what Gina Colvin and her husband reported about Midgley’s “visit,”
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Louis Midgley DanielPeterson • 2 hours ago • edited
The one I assumed was the Stake President, since he was conducting the meeting in which two Wards were transformed into three Wards, came up to me and pointed to Dr. Nathan McCluskey, who happens to be Gina Colvin's husband, and he indicated that he wanted to meet me. In that mass of people I lost sight of him, but he spotted me and we instantly became friends. We had an interesting conversation and I came away with his card and a request that we stay in touch. End of story.
All of this has been garbled on Dr. Shades disgusting board.
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DanielPeterson Mod Louis Midgley • 2 hours ago
They tend to garble such stories. Hate will do that.
Colvin is pretty clear about how she felt about Midgley showing up and his stalkerish strategy to get close to her husband. From previous page in this thread:
[bolding added]She chided her husband a bit, listing three "reasons to go the LDS Church on Sunday (these are not a direct quotation but a close paraphrase, as Dr. Peterson would say):
1. Louis Midgley might be present and my husband might think again about becoming a new friend of Midgley's.
2. I would remind my husband that Midgley is "mean and has publicly said cruel things about me" and rather than nearly inviting him to have dinner at our home, he might have defended me.
3. I could also prevent my husband from disclosing personal information that Midgley "might use in his rudeness."
Her husband responded that he "had no idea." He saw Midgley's name badge, thought the name was "really familiar," and thought Midgley was one of his wife's "mates." "Guess not," he added (with a sheepish smile emoji).
She later noted that her husband "clearly missed the name" when she read "the rude troll things" that Midgley has said.
He subsequently said that he viewed Midgley at the time as a very friendly and interesting person. Midgley apparently asked him for his card to stay in contact. Then, he wrote, he got home and excitedly told his wife about his meeting and found out that "perhaps I shouldn't have."
Given Midgley’s well-documented propensity to exaggerate, and the extensive evidence of his stalking behavior and his mean-spirited attacks on people, Colvin’s version is much more believable.
