Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:. I have a very low opinion of people.


LOL.. ya think

And rightfully so. After all, people actually defend and even support Trump. There has to be something fundamentally wrong with you for that to be your position, most likely unforgivable willful ignorance (the most deference to doubt among the options).
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Markk wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:. I have a very low opinion of people.


LOL.. ya think


Markk...

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That's on you now. You'll probably never be able to live that down.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Some Schmo wrote:. I have a very low opinion of people.


Markk wrote:LOL.. ya think


Some Schmo wrote:And rightfully so. After all, people actually defend and even support Trump. There has to be something fundamentally wrong with you for that to be your position, most likely unforgivable willful ignorance (the most deference to doubt among the options).


Smile once in a while Schmo.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:Smile once in a while Schmo.

I smile all the time. I just have to avoid thinking about politics or the quality of people.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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canpakes wrote:OK. My mistake for misreading the comment. So back to the original question.

How is Hunter's pay necessarily indicative of corruption?



That is what Trolls do, they just create a straw-man argument...and then keep parroting while ignoring what people are saying.

Have you watched the video link I gave you yet, have you watched the series? My guess is no, in that you are a self admitted troll.

Anyways...

Focus...if you don't understand that there are multiple reasons that the Biden's and associates look dirty, I am not sure you will ever understand.

The highly inflated salary is just one part of the reason they look so dirty...and again, among other key reasons is that his boss was and is a criminal with deep Russian ties. Hunter's father is the VP of the United States and charged by President to "root out corruption" in the Ukraine...but also negotiate the terms of their receiving billions in aid. There is also the meeting in the White House with a Rosemont future Burisma board member...and the timing of monies deposited in their account, and Joe's meeting in the Ukraine at around the same time to finalize terms of aid going directly to the Natural Gas industry in the Ukraine...etc

Because you are a self admitted troll, you continually ignore the mountains of evidence, and try to some how force the Biden's possible corruption evidence into your silly and obvious straw-man.

Take a step back, do a honest study of all the evidence that points to possible corruption here with the Biden's and associates (in the Ukraine, China, and other places).

And, what about those crazy Ukrainians not seeing any Biden Crime Family conspiracy?


Shokin had around 5 or 6 active investigations into Burisma at the time he was fired by the VP quid pro quo (watch the links I gave you). And, many US newspaper in 2014 were warning of how this looks...go back and actually read some of the links I provided on this in th last thread.

Again a ignorant straw-man question.

One thing to note, is that the Ukrainian people were kept ignorant of the corruption in their country. It was reported...which I linked to in the last thread, that while Mykola Zlochevsky, Hunter's future criminal boss with deep Russian ties, was the minister Ecology and Natural Resources and deputy secretary on National Security and Defense Council (NSDC)...he also OWNED and o prated Burisma and granted his company licensing agreements.

A more honest comparison would be to compare Biden's compensation to that of the S&P 500 companies. The situation changes a bit when you do this:


Compare it to Exxon...about 50K a year for a managing director.

If you really want to be honest, the average board member in the Ukraine earns 337 110 of their currency (Hryvnia) a year...with an exchange of 0.040 to the dollar...which is what around 15 K a year?

FOCUS
....Hunter pretty much admitted in the ABC interview, which I also linked and you most likely ducked, that the only reason he got the position was becasue of his name...period. He was being used by a known criminal, who has since fled the country, and living in Monaco where offshore accounts are many, and who had very deep Russian ties..BECAUSE Hunter's father was the Vice President of the United States, and charged by Obama the negotiate the terms of US aid, and to Root out corruption.

It really does not get any more clearer that this that there is enough concern here to warrant an investigation...which is happening.

You can either deal with all the facts, or keep creating straw-man arguments and just troll them like you admitted you were doing. Th choice is yours. I will just keep adding more evidence as I read into them more an more and as the current ongoing investigation might uncover.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Some Schmo wrote:I smile all the time. I just have to avoid thinking about politics or the quality of people.


Probably good advice, read my signature.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:That is what Trolls do, they just create a straw-man argument...and then keep parroting while ignoring what people are saying.

Have you watched the video link I gave you yet, have you watched the series? My guess is no, in that you are a self admitted troll.

Anyways...

Focus...if you don't understand that there are multiple reasons that the Biden's and associates look dirty, I am not sure you will ever understand.

The highly inflated salary is just one part of the reason they look so dirty...and again, among other key reasons is that his boss was and is a criminal with deep Russian ties. Hunter's father is the VP of the United States and charged by President to "root out corruption" in the Ukraine...but also negotiate the terms of their receiving billions in aid. There is also the meeting in the White House with a Rosemont future Burisma board member...and the timing of monies deposited in their account, and Joe's meeting in the Ukraine at around the same time to finalize terms of aid going directly to the Natural Gas industry in the Ukraine...etc

Because you are a self admitted troll, you continually ignore the mountains of evidence, and try to some how force the Biden's possible corruption evidence into your silly and obvious straw-man.

Take a step back, do a honest study of all the evidence that points to possible corruption here with the Biden's and associates (in the Ukraine, China, and other places).

Shokin had around 5 or 6 active investigations into Burisma at the time he was fired by the VP quid pro quo (watch the links I gave you). And, many US newspaper in 2014 were warning of how this looks...go back and actually read some of the links I provided on this in th last thread.

Again a ignorant straw-man question.

One thing to note, is that the Ukrainian people were kept ignorant of the corruption in their country. It was reported...which I linked to in the last thread, that while Mykola Zlochevsky, Hunter's future criminal boss with deep Russian ties, was the minister Ecology and Natural Resources and deputy secretary on National Security and Defense Council (NSDC)...he also OWNED and o prated Burisma and granted his company licensing agreements.

Compare it to Exxon...about 50K a year for a managing director.

If you really want to be honest, the average board member in the Ukraine earns 337 110 of their currency (Hryvnia) a year...with an exchange of 0.040 to the dollar...which is what around 15 K a year?

FOCUS
....Hunter pretty much admitted in the ABC interview, which I also linked and you most likely ducked, that the only reason he got the position was becasue of his name...period. He was being used by a known criminal, who has since fled the country, and living in Monaco where offshore accounts are many, and who had very deep Russian ties..BECAUSE Hunter's father was the Vice President of the United States, and charged by Obama the negotiate the terms of US aid, and to Root out corruption.

It really does not get any more clearer that this that there is enough concern here to warrant an investigation...which is happening.


You can either deal with all the facts, or keep creating straw-man arguments and just troll them like you admitted you were doing. Th choice is yours. I will just keep adding more evidence as I read into them more an more and as the current ongoing investigation might uncover.

Markk, I appreciate your new effort at combining subgenius’s typical butthurt mentality with your own special brand of disingenuousness, in your constant comments about trolling, your foot-stomping, and repeated claims that everyone else is ignorant, interspersed with whining that folks are putting up straw man arguments when they ask you for any facts behind your vague assertions. I get it; you gotta keep trying new things after 30 or 40 pages of dodging the super-basic question of why Trump did not ask the DoJ to investigate something that you are claiming needs to be investigated. : D

Regarding board member pay - now you’re trying to work currency conversion rates into your defense, and compare pay given non-Ukrainians to the average salaries of Ukrainian citizens ... after claiming that Biden’s pay was too high, even as you can’t justify why it’s too high, or tell me what makes high pay an indication of corruption anyway. Maybe you just hate capitalism. I don’t know.

But given that you can’t make this work, let me ask you what you believe Biden was doing specifically that is corrupt, besides being paid well. What can you say about that?

(Fair warning, I might ask you why Trump didn’t ask the DoJ to investigate the items you’ll offer up...)
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LOL...You stuck your foot in your mouth and exposed your true colors. It is really just complimenting your never answering questions and parroting the same question that has been answered over and over. Honor called you out on this and you just verified in your own words what you are...a troll.
Regarding board member pay - now you’re trying to work currency conversion rates into your defense, and compare pay given non-Ukrainians to the average salaries of Ukrainian citizens ... after claiming that Biden’s pay was too high, even as you can’t justify why it’s too high, or tell me what makes high pay an indication of corruption anyway. Maybe you just hate capitalism. I don’t know.


More trolling...focus...

The highly inflated salary is just one part of the reason they look so dirty...and again, among other key reasons is that his boss was and is a criminal with deep Russian ties. Hunter's father is the VP of the United States and charged by President to "root out corruption" in the Ukraine...but also negotiate the terms of their receiving billions in aid. There is also the meeting in the White House with a Rosemont future Burisma board member...and the timing of monies deposited in their account, and Joe's meeting in the Ukraine at around the same time to finalize terms of aid going directly to the Natural Gas industry in the Ukraine...etc

Your whole existence is this thread is the two questions you keep trolling...beyond those questions you have nothing, you refuse to address, answer, or expound on my questions and research the links I give you.

I doubt if you have even read the articles of impeachment, the WB complaints, and you certainly haven't investigated the issues.

You ducked this , I'll try again

FOCUS....Hunter pretty much admitted in the ABC interview, which I also linked and you most likely ducked, that the only reason he got the position was becasue of his name...period. He was being used by a known criminal, who has since fled the country, and living in Monaco where offshore accounts are many, and who had very deep Russian ties..BECAUSE Hunter's father was the Vice President of the United States, and charged by Obama the negotiate the terms of US aid, and to Root out corruption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi03EjUxxpc

He admits it was most likely because of his name. Who else would hire a troubled person, with problems of addiction, at a crazy inflated salary, if it was not just becasue of his name...and by default his connections. Archer, Hunter's business partner at Rosemont... met with Joe in the White House, received 112K from Burisma, and boom, he met with Joe in the White House right at the time he was finalizing the terms of aid to the natural gas industry in the Ukraine, and then he and Hunter were hired by Burisma.

Because I ask you these types of real question repeatably...and you never ever expound on them...why? Because you are a troll...all you have are two tired questions that have been answered over and over.
I tell you what...expound on this last point I just italicized ...and lets see what you have, or just keep trolling?
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:LOL...You stuck your foot in your mouth and exposed your true colors. It is really just complimenting your never answering questions and parroting the same question that has been answered over and over. Honor called you out on this and you just verified in your own words what you are...a troll.

More trolling...focus...

The highly inflated salary is just one part of the reason they look so dirty...and again, among other key reasons is that his boss was and is a criminal with deep Russian ties. Hunter's father is the VP of the United States and charged by President to "root out corruption" in the Ukraine...but also negotiate the terms of their receiving billions in aid. There is also the meeting in the White House with a Rosemont future Burisma board member...and the timing of monies deposited in their account, and Joe's meeting in the Ukraine at around the same time to finalize terms of aid going directly to the Natural Gas industry in the Ukraine...etc

Your whole existence is this thread is the two questions you keep trolling...beyond those questions you have nothing, you refuse to address, answer, or expound on my questions and research the links I give you.

I doubt if you have even read the articles of impeachment, the WB complaints, and you certainly haven't investigated the issues.

You ducked this , I'll try again

FOCUS....Hunter pretty much admitted in the ABC interview, which I also linked and you most likely ducked, that the only reason he got the position was becasue of his name...period. He was being used by a known criminal, who has since fled the country, and living in Monaco where offshore accounts are many, and who had very deep Russian ties..BECAUSE Hunter's father was the Vice President of the United States, and charged by Obama the negotiate the terms of US aid, and to Root out corruption.
He admits it was most likely because of his name. Who else would hire a troubled person, with problems of addiction, at a crazy inflated salary, if it was not just becasue of his name...and by default his connections. Archer, Hunter's business partner at Rosemont... met with Joe in the White House, received 112K from Burisma, and boom, he met with Joe in the White House right at the time he was finalizing the terms of aid to the natural gas industry in the Ukraine, and then he and Hunter were hired by Burisma.

Because I ask you these types of real question repeatably...and you never ever expound on them...why? Because you are a troll...all you have are two tired questions that have been answered over and over.
I tell you what...expound on this last point I just italicized ...and lets see what you have, or just keep trolling?

For someone who keeps accusing everyone else of “not reading”, you seem to have missed the post in this thread where I stated that his name recognition was likely the strongest factor in his selection.

Maybe I need to ask you to FOCUS. : )

Now you can tell me why hiring someone for name recognition is indicative of the hired person being corrupt. This will be the eleventy-third question I’ll ask you that you’ll dodge as you rant on about LOLS and TROLLS. You haven’t been able to tell me why his pay level is indicative of corruption, or how his dad was benefitting from that salary, or why Trump never deemed it necessary to investigate all of this, so why not fumble over this one, too?



And, why didn’t Trump ask the DoJ to investigate all of this? LOLoLOLoLOL, and stuff. : D
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LOL...Again you ducked the real question, getting a little unsettled...but you did take a tiny step out of your troll talking point.


FOCUS....Hunter pretty much admitted in the ABC interview, which I also linked and you most likely ducked, that the only reason he got the position was becasue of his name...period. He was being used by a known criminal, who has since fled the country, and living in Monaco where offshore accounts are many, and who had very deep Russian ties..BECAUSE Hunter's father was the Vice President of the United States, and charged by Obama the negotiate the terms of US aid, and to Root out corruption.


So now you admit he got the job for his name..."Biden." Why? Maybe, just maybe, because his father was lead man on the aid given to the Ukraine?

But anyways...you admitted it was becasue of his name he got hired by a mobster with Russian ties. Given that if it was not for his ability, what do you think the mobster was after? Why do you think Archer was hired? Why was all this money...3 million plus given to Rosemont, give it was because of the Biden name?

So once again focus and answer the rest of the questions, or Troll away. Lets get through my back log of questions you have been ducking, so we can get to China.

And yes I did miss that post, please link me to it.
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