Will Sanders' Supporters Ultimately Back Trump?

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Which exit polls are you referring to? In Texas, for example, Biden did better than Sanders among voters with no college education. Did you find an exit poll where voters were asked if they were struggling economically.

How will A.I. or robots make things free? Things require resources to make. Every action involves opportunity cost because neither time nor resources are infinite.
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Res Ipsa wrote:Which exit polls are you referring to? In Texas, for example, Biden did better than Sanders among voters with no college education.


Here https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... y-primary/.

But African-Americans are the exception. Biden enjoys a lot of support from African-Americans. But among whites Biden has support from educated voters. On Super Tuesday Joe Biden won Blacks by +41% and college graduates by +10% beating Bloomberg and Warren among college graduates. In 2016 we learned it was a big mistake not to get the support from non-college whites.

Res Ipsa wrote:How will A.I. or robots make things free? Things require resources to make. Every action involves opportunity cost because neither time nor resources are infinite.


I didn't say everything will be free, but some things could be free, especially if a person doesn't make them.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:I didn't say everything will be free, but some things could be free, especially if a person doesn't make them.

Explain. I'm curious what you young whipper snappers have to teach everyone else about how things work and can be provided for free.
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honorentheos wrote:Explain. I'm curious what you young whipper snappers have to teach everyone else about how things work and can be provided for free.

This made my day, honor. I don't think "young whipper snappers" is used nearly enough, and I think we should start a campaign to bring it back.
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I don't think Canadian health care ushers in an authoritarian government to effectuate it. Case in point, all the Western governments that have similar systems. That's overshooting the criticism of single-payer by miles.
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honorentheos wrote:Explain. I'm curious what you young whipper snappers have to teach everyone else about how things work and can be provided for free.


Okay let me put it simple: Socialism

Socialism could work under A.I. and automation. The reason why socialism doesn't work is because of lazy people, but that probably wouldn't be a problem with A.I. and automation.
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honorentheos wrote: have to teach everyone else about how things work and can be provided for free.


Technology is changing the world. What can 65 year olds teach us about the future?
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EAllusion wrote:I don't think Canadian health care ushers in an authoritarian government to effectuate it. Case in point, all the Western governments that have similar systems. That's overshooting the criticism of single-payer by miles.


Thank you!
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You didn’t read the whole article. Biden won a larger percentage of the non-college educated vote than he did the college educated vote. And he beat Sanders in both categories.

You seem to think that the only cost of making things is labor. What you can learn from boomers, for a start, is basic economics. A robot builds a chair. What is the cost of building the chair?
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