Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

[_Markk]

Markk, let me flip your script back at you and ask you why you aren’t demanding that we investigate ex-CIA and Blackwater employee Joseph Cofer Black, current member of the board at Burisma, who also “has no experience in natural gas”, and “can’t speak Ukrainian”.

Bonus corruption point: he’s getting paid! OMG!!1!

As of 14 October 2019, the members of the board of directors (of Burisma), in order of seniority, are Alan Apter, Aleksander Kwaśniewski, Joseph Cofer Black , Karina Zlochevska, Christina Sofocleous, Riginos Charalampous, and Marina Pericleous. Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former president of Poland, joined the board in January 2014. In 2017, Joseph Cofer Black, former director of the Counterterrorism Center of the Central Intelligence Agency (1999–2002) in the George W. Bush administration and former Ambassador-at-Large for counter-terrorism (2002–2004), was appointed to the board. Karina Zlochevska, daughter of Mykola Zlochevskiy, was also appointed in February 2016.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burisma_Holdings

??? His relationship with Romney could be interesting. And if there is evidence of him possibly being tied to a "source " (VP Father giving money to the Ukraine) that leads to corruption, then lets certainly investigate it. I certainly would support him never ever being able to hold a goverment position again...he is working for a known criminal who is on the run from the Ukraine. I have no problems bringing him into the mix here, and might come up in the current investigation.

There are lot of folks that should and could be investigated for many reasons. But this about the impeachment and ukrainegate with the Biden's.

But this is a diversion, in this thread, from talking about the facts we do know, that warrant and investigation of the Bidens. But it is good you are searching for information on this...

[_canpakes]

Another straw-man. The point is about experience and resume...again Focus.

Right. All of the experience that Doc mentioned doesn’t count, because Hunter Biden “doesn’t speak Ukrainian”.

Not at all...LOL, Focus....Hunter sat on a board, owned to this very day, by a criminal with deep Russian ties who is on the lam. . While his father was VP and charged with rooting out corruption in the Ukraine, while his son was a board member for a known corrupt company owned by the above referenced criminal.

Maybe you mean that we should investigate the past owner of Burisma? You’re only talking about that fellow.

Regarding the board itself - A lot of folks are on that board, including another US citizen who’s an ex-CIA employee, who also has no experience in natural gas, can’t speak Ukrainian, and is being paid. You don’t seem at interested in looking into that fellow. I wonder why. ; )

In fact, you’ve provided no reason to ‘investigate’ any of them.

So please tell me why your interest is in Biden alone. Compare and contrast to other board members.

LOL...and if you have been reading, this is just one of many things that is evidence that would and should warrant an investigation.

You haven’t provided any evidence. Please give some evidence of Biden’s wrongdoing.

[_canpakes]

There are lot of folks that should and could be investigated for many reasons. But this about the impeachment and ukrainegate with the Biden's.

And there’s your problem.

This is about the impeachment and Ukrainegate with Trump doing a stupid thing in trying to strong-arm a foreign government to initiate sham investigations and announce them on US television, in order to continue to receive US assistance.

That reality prompted your first dodge, and the point at which you tried to shift the focus away from Trump by insisting that Trump needed to have his political rivals investigated by foreign governments. To which you’ve been asked repeatedly: why did not Trump ask our DoJ to investigate, if that need existed?

You’ve dodged the question ever since, because you know that there was nothing to investigate, but that you have to protect Trump at all costs.

[_Markk]

Markk writes:

Rosemont was paid over 3.1 Million, with 83K a month said to go the Hunter, even if you took a lower figure of 50K...which would not include his credit card spending, and other investments from the 3.1 million...he exceeded the yearly minimum pay in 4 months.

Markk also writes:

...that is flat out lie. I never said that his pay level of itself indicated he was corrupt...CFR.

Markk, why are you still bitching about Hunter Biden’s pay if you aren’t implying that it indicates corruption?

Both of these statements from you are on this same page. Are you even aware of whatever your argument is, at this point?

LOL...Focus, I am not bitching at all. I pointed out you are a liar for saying that his salary alone, of it's self, indicates corruption. Given along with his being over compensated...his boss was and is a crook, his father was VP charged with rooting out corruption in the Ukraine-charged with giving out over 2 billion in aid to the Ukraine, and millions to the Ukraine energy sector, while Hunter worked for Burisma, that has a owner with deep Russian ties. etc..etc...that all together is the evidence. But it is all you got, try defending working for a corrupt mobster in the Ukraine, while his father was VP, charged by Obama to root out corruption in the Ukraine...as being okay.

LOL... intentionally or not, you are just lying, and a self admitted troll, that ducks real questions and real evidences. And can only mine out weak straw-mam questions, and then troll them.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Man, it’s just endless BS.

[_Markk]

And there’s your problem.

This is about the impeachment and Ukrainegate with Trump doing a stupid thing in trying to strong-arm a foreign government to initiate sham investigations and announce them on US television, in order to continue to receive US assistance.

That reality prompted your first dodge, and the point at which you tried to shift the focus away from Trump by insisting that Trump needed to have his political rivals investigated by foreign governments. To which you’ve been asked repeatedly: why did not Trump ask our DoJ to investigate, if that need existed?

You’ve dodged the question ever since, because you know that there was nothing to investigate, but that you have to protect Trump at all costs.[/quote]

LOL, you mean your trolled question?

Like Honor implied, I answered the stupid question...you just don't know how to deal with my answer.

And thus your only defense of my answer is to troll the question when ever you are stuck...like you are now.

Canpakes, the lying troll ...LOL, that has a ring to it.

Is it wrong for Hunter to have worked for a corrupt mobster in the Ukraine, while his father was charged to root out corruption in the Ukraine? Do you have answer for that question?

[_Markk]

Man, it’s just endless ____.

That you can't honestly discuss...or even come close to honestly defend...all you have is identity ad hom defenses.

Carry on

[_canpakes]

Do you read anything...have you followed the impeachment trial/s?

Read the bank statements above Icarus. They show dozens of direct deposits from Burisma.

It was two payments of 83.K a month (or 2 million a year) from Burisma.


Also read the article you linked...

Specifically, the records show 18 months in which two payments of $83,333 per month were paid to Rosemont Seneca Bohai for “consulting services.” The two sources said that one of those monthly payments was intended for Biden and one for Archer. Reuters was not able to independently verify the authenticity of the documents or how much money Hunter Biden received.

Markk, do you even know when Zlochevsky fled from Burisma? (Strong hint: before the end of 2014...)

Why are you bitching about him in relation to pay to a consulting firm after-the-fact?

Please post some evidence of wrongdoing from Hunter Biden.

[_canpakes]

And there’s your problem.

This is about the impeachment and Ukrainegate with Trump doing a stupid thing in trying to strong-arm a foreign government to initiate sham investigations and announce them on US television, in order to continue to receive US assistance.

That reality prompted your first dodge, and the point at which you tried to shift the focus away from Trump by insisting that Trump needed to have his political rivals investigated by foreign governments. To which you’ve been asked repeatedly: why did not Trump ask our DoJ to investigate, if that need existed?

You’ve dodged the question ever since, because you know that there was nothing to investigate, but that you have to protect Trump at all costs.

LOL, you mean your trolled question?

Like Honor implied, I answered the stupid question...you just don't know how to deal with my answer.

And thus your only defense of my answer is to troll the question when ever you are stuck...like you are now.

Canpakes, the lying troll ...LOL, that has a ring to it.

Is it wrong for Hunter to have worked for a corrupt mobster in the Ukraine, while his father was charged to root out corruption in the Ukraine? Do you have answer for that question?

You seem unable to give details about your own accusations, and now want others to fill them in for you, I see.

Was it “wrong” for any member of the board to work for a “corrupt mobster” is your actual question. You can tell me what your answer is, if you have the balls to do so.

[_honorentheos]

Not at all...LOL, Focus....Hunter sat on a board, owned to this very day, by a criminal with deep Russian ties who is on the lam. . While his father was VP and charged with rooting out corruption in the Ukraine, while his son was a board member for a known corrupt company owned by the above referenced criminal. LOL...and if you have been reading, this is just one of many things that is evidence that would and should warrant an investigation.

I really wish you would have spent time with the timeline provided. It helps to illustrate how difficult your case is that Joe Biden was acting in the interest of Zlochevsky on Hunters behalf. You see evidence of corruption while ignoring counter evidence that is necessary to understand what happened and is happening now.

It isn't worth my time anymore, but it's frustrating to see you make the same arguments over and over based on innuendo and supposition while ignoring actual evidence.