EAllusion wrote:I don't like Biden as a politician, but I'd be comfortable with his prospects of winning if not for the fact his cognition appears to be deteriorating rapidly. Once Republicans start focusing on that, the media is going to go from politely ignoring it to obsessing over it. He's the only Democrat I can imagine looking bad next to Trump in a debate by virtue of not being altogether there. The idea of him being President is a joke, but being not-Trump is the priority atm. So, real good shot I'll be voting for the demented candidate over the demented candidate in November. American politics absolutely sucks. It's because our media sucks.
Just because, you know, you aren't an anarchist hypocrite doing the very thing you decried happening earlier. Some people, I guess.
The thing I'm complaining here about is not the idea of covering Biden's mental health. I'm all in favor of that, because that is a valid issue to look at when deciding who should be President. That it's bad for Biden is not my problem, though it is unfortunate given the priority of Trump losing. That's something people should've considered before voting for Biden, which is the point I'm making in the paragraph you are quoting. Biden has a flaw that is eventually going to hurt him/us.
What I'm complaining about legacy media focusing on it while not covering Donald Trump's own mental health issues. This is not a thing I'm guilty of. This is very easy to understand, yet it escapes you. Why? What's wrong with you that leads to this outcome?
EAllusion wrote: The source is Pixelated Boat. Pixelated Boat is a well-known liberal. I see you are in the "how dare you undermine Biden!" phase of the campaign, but there's nothing hypocritical about expressing concerns about Biden that are also present in Trump.
At least with Biden, the entourage that would be supporting him isn’t comprised of folks that are scared of brown people or Jewish folks ‘replacing’ them, spooked by gender-neutral bathrooms, or prattling on in a spittle-flecked diatribe about how someone disrespected their religion by saying, “Happy Holidays”.
Pixelated Boat is a Bernie supporter. EA was being disengenuous. Imagine an anarchist doing that...
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:Pixelated Boat is a Bernie supporter. EAllusion was being disengenuous. Imagine an anarchist doing that...
Oh, I thought you were charging that I'm quoting a Trumpist propaganda campaign instead of someone who hates Trump. Instead, you are arguing that Biden supporters are the only valid source of commentary on Biden. Good, totally not in a cult, argument there.
EAllusion wrote:What I'm complaining about legacy media focusing on it while not covering Donald Trump's own mental health issues. This is not a thing I'm guilty of. This is very easy to understand, yet it escapes you. Why? What's wrong with you that leads to this outcome?
Again, you seem quite upset about having your and underlying animosity towards Democrats in general exposed. I'd suggest picking a lane, EA, but that's not really how being an anarchist works, is it?
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:Pixelated Boat is a Bernie supporter. EAllusion was being disengenuous. Imagine an anarchist doing that...
Oh, I thought you were charging that I'm quoting a Trumpist propaganda campaign instead of someone who hates Trump. Instead, you are arguing that Biden supporters are the only valid source of commentary on Biden. Good, totally not in a cult, argument there.
That's amusing. I believe the charge is you are an anarchist hypocrite. And that's the sum of it. As you know, Bernie supporters were circulating the orders to attack Biden on claims he is suffering from dementia. So was Hannity. And apparently the bots. Hmmm. Nothing like a good online trolling, right anarchist?
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The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:Again, you seem quite upset about having your and underlying animosity towards Democrats in general exposed. I'd suggest picking a lane, EAllusion, but that's not really how being an anarchist works, is it?
How strange that every time I point out the central flaw in your reasoning, you ignore it and offer a variation of, "Lol. Triggered!?" It's because you can't defend what you are saying, either because you're too blinded by your own self-regard to notice or too embarrassed to own up to such a simple mistake. Either way, cool. My advice? Just keep calling me an anarchist some more because I dare uttered a concern about the political messiah that is *checks notes* Joe Biden.
The flaw in my point is that you were complaining about a trait in the media you then replicated but then said you didn't because you also have said Trump is suffering from cognitive decline?
It's an attack, EA. One propogated by people trying to end the Biden campaign. Call it what it is. Sorry you participated in it despite all your bluster about Russian interference in 2016 and the media being garbage. Yet, here you are...
ETA: I'm calling you an anarchist because it's the only label that adequately describes your behaviour on the board. I suspect in reality you have views that align with some slightly less anarchist strain of libertarianism, but recognize no views being perfect, prefer to play the contrarian here. But the end result is no different than you being an avowed anarchist.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:That's amusing. I believe the charge is you are an anarchist hypocrite. And that's the sum of it. As you know, Bernie supporters were circulating the orders to attack Biden on claims he is suffering from dementia. So was Hannity. And apparently the bots. Hmmm. Nothing like a good riot, right anarchist?
The hell? Do you seriously believe the only people expressing concern about Biden's mental status are Bernie supporters and Trumpists operating under "orders" to foment a propaganda campaign against Biden about his, um, decline? If you do, I'm sorry to report that you are ignorant and probably should stop talking.
In the words of Will Stancil, a dude who is definitely not particularly enamored with Bernie Sanders and seems rather concerned about Biden losing it, ""Is Joe Biden declining?" is not a question about whether you support Bernie Sanders, you imbeciles."
EAllusion wrote:The GOP was starting to focus on that because they thought Sanders was the frontrunner. We'll be back to Ukraine, Biden's fitness for office, etc. now that the tables have turned. Once the primary is over, the media will start obsessively covering whatever Republicans want them to cover to prove how fair and balanced they are. Voters - the ones who can be persuaded - are fickle creatures who think what cable news tells them to think.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:The flaw in my point is that you were complaining about a trait in the media you then replicated but then said you didn't because you also have said Trump is suffering from cognitive decline?
It's an attack, EAllusion. One propogated by people trying to end the Biden campaign. Call it what it is. Sorry you participated in it despite all your bluster about Russian interference in 2016 and the media being garbage. Yet, here you are...
ETA: I'm calling you an anarchist because it's the only label that adequately describes your behaviour on the board. I suspect in reality you have views that align with some slightly less anarchist strain of libertarianism, but recognize no views being perfect, prefer to play the contrarian here. But the end result is no different than you being an avowed anarchist.
It seems that you cannot fathom that someone would be legitimately concerned with a 77 year old candidate for President who is showing serious signs of executive function decline. This leads you to think that anyone who expresses such concern must be part of a illegitimate propaganda campaign. Or rather, this is what you think when the candidate is Joe Biden, someone you support. Maybe if it was Bernie Sanders constantly having problems that mirror mental senescence, you'd be a little more inclined to allow for sincere concern. In any case, people having beliefs that aren't yours doesn't make them hypocrites. That seems like a hard idea for you to wrap your head around, but do try.