Joe Biden accused of sexual assault

[_honorentheos]

I don't see the call to Larry King as corroborating sexual assault. It raises different questions but one of those is how allegations should be handled with respect for all parties to seek justice while also preventing them from being fully weaponized as a political tool. Biden was far from my top pick but I don't see him being disqualified by the current state of the evidence.

[_Jersey Girl]

I am 55% sure because she did tell her mother, brother, and a friend.

I think I only read one report on this (today or yesterday) and I don't recall it being specific to sexual assault. I thought it was plain old harassment and not the sexual kind? I should have re-read before I asked anything about it.

[_Jersey Girl]

I don't see the call to Larry King as corroborating sexual assault. It raises different questions but one of those is how allegations should be handled with respect for all parties to seek justice while also preventing them from being fully weaponized as a political tool. Biden was far from my top pick but I don't see him being disqualified by the current state of the evidence.

Ftr I don't believe he sexually assaulted her. At all. Maybe a little too handsy for comfort like the other's have said? That I can believe.

[_DoubtingThomas]

I think I only read one report on this (today or yesterday) and I don't recall it being specific to sexual assault. I thought it was plain old harassment and not the sexual kind? I should have re-read before I asked anything about it.

Her friend does remember.

"Reade said she told one of her friends about the alleged 1993 assault around the time she said it happened. That friend, who asked to remain anonymous in part to protect her business interests, spoke with NPR and corroborated Reade's description of the assault and its aftermath."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/83796652 ... allegation

False memory is a possibility.

[_DoubtingThomas]

disqualified by the current state of the evidence.

People could get arrested for this.
https://youtu.be/xSSMG0MaEnQ?t=50

[Guest]

I think I only read one report on this (today or yesterday) and I don't recall it being specific to sexual assault. I thought it was plain old harassment and not the sexual kind? I should have re-read before I asked anything about it.

Her friend does remember.

"Reade said she told one of her friends about the alleged 1993 assault around the time she said it happened. That friend, who asked to remain anonymous in part to protect her business interests, spoke with NPR and corroborated Reade's description of the assault and its aftermath."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/83796652 ... allegation

False memory is a possibility.

Whatever it is, it seems politically motivated by timing and circumstance. The evidence doesn't overcome that. The changing, and extreme ramping up of the claim, seem like a case of weaponizing a serious allegation. Maybe not. But her primary earlier claims would also be consistent with her mother's call to Larry King. In fact, it would seem odd for her mother to call Larry King knowing he had physically assaulted her, and described it as a problem in Washington rather than having an explosive charge about a sitting Senator having essentially raped her daughter in public but.... I don't know. I'm not an advocate for dismissing the claims outright, but neither am I an advocate for treating allegations as presumptive of guilt thus allowing the mere act of alleging something happened to be seriously damaging. We need to be able to deal justly with all parties involved and that requires some degree of restraint when it comes to making judgements. Sanders supporters want to assume she is telling the truth. Trump supporters, too. Biden supporters want to dismiss her. People who don't like Democrats but hate Trump and what he's doing probably see it as a Democrat “F” up that could give the election to Trump. But behind all of that are some more serious, person issues not least of which is if Biden didn't do it, it would be a real crap show and a further decline of our Democratic processes to let it result in his becoming the guy who may or may not have raped someone in the early 90s when he didn't do it. So, politics aside, we as a society should maybe be a bit less politically self-serving about these things. Maybe. Because it results in some really crappy behaviour where up becomes down left, right, and what is good become fungible and a commodity to be used to win at politics.

[_honorentheos]

disqualified by the current state of the evidence.

People could get arrested for this.
https://youtu.be/xSSMG0MaEnQ?t=50

For example?

[_moksha]

I do agree Trump is likely guilty of sexual assault. I say there is a 98% chance that he is guilty, but it is not 100% because there is no physical evidence. Read the alien story.

Wait, are you saying that Trump grabbed some alien by the tubers? I agree with your 98% chance estimate of a Trump extraterrestrial groping.

[_subgenius]

That doesn't make him a Trump-level sexual predator

I do agree Trump is likely guilty of sexual assault. I say there is a 98% chance that he is guilty, but it is not 100% because there is no physical evidence. Read the alien story.
http://www.mormonthink.com/witnessesweb.htm

physical evidence is 2% of guilt? awesome!

[_subgenius]

I think I only read one report on this (today or yesterday) and I don't recall it being specific to sexual assault. I thought it was plain old harassment and not the sexual kind? I should have re-read before I asked anything about it.

Her friend does remember.

"Reade said she told one of her friends about the alleged 1993 assault around the time she said it happened. That friend, who asked to remain anonymous in part to protect her business interests, spoke with NPR and corroborated Reade's description of the assault and its aftermath."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/83796652 ... allegation

False memory is a possibility.

are you quoting the now evasive Larry King episode?