Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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Icarus wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:45 pm
There is no deep state. That's just something Trump and his idiot following invented from thin air.
All the partisan mainstream media informants will be sent packing. I still don't fully understand why it wasn't done sooner but I'm pretty confident after this next election there will be a much needed cleansing.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:51 pm
Icarus wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:45 pm
There is no deep state. That's just something Trump and his idiot following invented from thin air.
All the partisan mainstream media informants will be sent packing. I still don't fully understand why it wasn't done sooner but I'm pretty confident after this next election there will be a much needed cleansing.
Meanwhile, Col. Mustard was in the library, caressing the lead pipe. As he tried to listen in on Hunter Biden's nefarious plot coming from the study, he was contemplating whether this or the monkey wrench was more fitting.
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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Isn’t it neat what you can do when you have the power to selectively declassify whatever you want. Every trial lawyer I know would give up a limb to be able to unilaterally decide which evidence the jury gets to hear.
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:09 pm
Isn’t it neat what you can do when you have the power to selectively declassify whatever you want. Every trial lawyer I know would give up a limb to be able to unilaterally decide which evidence the jury gets to hear.
I'm sure there's plenty more to come. But yeah, if the 2016 election had went just slightly the other way, we wouldn't know any of this.

Res Ipsa would you say you are more or less of a legal realist since becoming a lawyer. This isn't a knock on your profession but I found the BS element so thick in legal textbooks that my mind just rejected it and I could scarcely listen to it. It's impossible to predict or understand without knowing the politics. Election results determine right and wrong in so many ways. History is written by the victors.
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:51 pm
Icarus wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:45 pm
There is no deep state. That's just something Trump and his idiot following invented from thin air.
All the partisan mainstream media informants will be sent packing. I still don't fully understand why it wasn't done sooner but I'm pretty confident after this next election there will be a much needed cleansing.
Again, you're just demonstrating your naïvété. You bury yourself in Brietbart daily with no regard for how often they're lying to you.
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:34 pm

I'm sure there's plenty more to come. But yeah, if the 2016 election had went just slightly the other way, we wouldn't know any of this.
Know any of what? You're provided nothing of substance. There is nothing to "know" here. No evidence of anything other than your inability to admit being wrong, and to recognize your shady sources are having a shrinking effect on your brain.
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Know what, exactly, Ajax? I see the quote you offered, but aside from a false definition of entrapment, there's not even an argument there. It's just you demanding people pay. Later, you claim to care very much about purging the "deep state" because you take leaks to the media very seriously, only that's not really true either.

For instance, shortly before the election, the NY FBI field office leaked to the NYT the false story that the FBI saw no link between Russia (and its espionage) and Trump. This was dutifully reported by the NYT and may have impacted the election insofar it helped quell some of the suspicion people had at the time. Then, the head of the FBI alerted the public of the Anthony Weiner email cache (which turned out to be nothing), in violation of their own policy, in order to preempt a leak that was coming from that office. That act by the FBI almost certainly threw the election to Trump, which is odd in your belief system that involves an FBI bound and determined to politically execute him. There's supposed to be an investigation of this, but it's been back-burned for years since Trump took office. Giuliani is known to have be involved, but it's not entirely clear how and not a single person has faced any consequences for this. This was the official reason Comey was fired, though everyone knows that he was really fired because of the Flynn investigation.

Are you out here demanding these people be purged? Because of your principled commitment to not leaking to the media? Nah. What you want is for federal law enforcement (and intelligence, and military, and civil service) to remove anyone who is not a loyal apparatchik for Trump because you believe that power only is legitimate in the hands of leaders you like. You're about as classic of an authoritarian personality as they come - hence your Nazi sympathies that you may or may not be pretending to have repented from - and just can't fathom how this will screw even you in the end.
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The declassification of Rice’s email further fueled Republicans’ claims that Obama administration officials improperly targeted Flynn during and after the 2016 campaign and influenced the FBI’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russians.

Rice’s spokeswoman pushed back on the GOP’s criticism, saying the email was evidence that no members of the administration interfered in the FBI’s probe.

“[T]he email makes clear that the Obama Administration did not change the way it briefed Michael Flynn – but rather that President Obama asked Director Comey ‘to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team,’ ” the spokeswoman said.

“In fact, Ambassador Rice briefed Michael Flynn for over 12 hours, on four separate occasions and led the National Security Council in preparing and delivering to him over 100 separate briefing memos. Ambassador Rice did not alter the way she briefed Michael Flynn on Russia as a result of Director Comey’s response.”

https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... e-released
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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There was a 300% increase in unmaskings under the lame duck Obama administration. Why? The onion is being peeled back.

But ultimately what we are allowed to know all depends on who wins the election. Perhaps the Norse were onto something with fate because this isn't free will.
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Re: Obamagate and Unmasking Flynn

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I love how people take the time to form layered responses that ought to trigger a google search, and all ajaxoff does is rub out another non sequitur. Like. Whatever farts to the top of his thick skull is what gets posted.

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